mtl-style-example VS ihp

Re: effects libraries, it's probably worth starting with e.g. https://www.fpcomplete.com/blog/2017/06/readert-design-pattern/ https://www.parsonsmatt.org/2018/03/22/three_layer_haskell_cake.html https://github.com/lexi-lambda/mtl-style-example if you're just getting familiar with the ecosystem. I'll add, anything written by the the people I linked to in this comment is probably worth reading as well.

Personally, it felt to me like, once I really understood monad transformers (https://hackage.haskell.org/package/transformers) and mtl (https://hackage.haskell.org/package/mtl), the reasons they both exist and how they are distinct, how you use them generally and what common patterns are around structuring your app (see e.g. https://github.com/lexi-lambda/mtl-style-example and the 3-layer-cake link someone else provided here for two), a lot of stuff in the ecosystem suddenly became comprehensible and useful to me, in a practical, "real world" way. In fact I'd go so far as to assert that getting comfortable with mtl in particular is the biggest single step you can take to being able to build arbitrarily useful real-world apps that are no longer toys.

I found IHP straightforward:

https://ihp.digitallyinduced.com/

despite not remembering much haskell!

This assumes you can get past nix for the install.

I find IHP well-designed. I just wish the licensing scheme were more transparent.

You can find the docs at https://ihp.digitallyinduced.com/ and some getting started videos at https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PLl9Sjq6Nzc&list=PLenFm8BWuKlS0IaE31DmKB_PbkMLmwWmG

In case this got you interested in Haskell, and you want a good way to start your Haskell journey (and have something to apply the optimization handbook to), check out IHP. It's the Rails/Laravel of the Haskell world. You can start here https://ihp.digitallyinduced.com/Guide/index.html or check it out on GitHub here https://github.com/digitallyinduced/ihp

At IHP we've been using Algora for a while now and it works really great. Here's e.g. one PR that was merged last week with a bounty attached https://github.com/digitallyinduced/ihp/issues/1621 Everything was set up in less than 15 minutes and ioannis and zafer have been super helpful with any questions we had.

In general I think this is a good direction and an interesting take on the open question around sustainable open source. Congrats on the launch and keep up the great work! :)

You could contribute to IHP! We have some great docs to get started here https://github.com/digitallyinduced/ihp/blob/master/CONTRIBUTING.md And we have some low hanging fruits in GitHub issues for you to get started with, e.g. https://github.com/digitallyinduced/ihp/issues/1601 (also there's always lots of activity in the IHP Slack, in case you have any questions/need help)