Movim VS matrix.org

When https://siskin.im/ is seriously touted as the best iOS client for XMPP, you already lost 50% of the market share in the US. And if you don't have any usable app for 50% of your users in one of the most important markets, you can not really claim "interoperability", can you?

Don't get me wrong, it would be great if more people were using XMPP. Now that I am more involved in the Fediverse space I'm learning how many wheels are being reinvented and XMPP has already solved. If more people learned about https://movim.eu I'd be able to shut off Communick and move on to do something else to do with my life, but the reality is that XMPP failed to achieve critical mass because it never had someone to complete control the protocol.

Let me put it in another way: of all the existing projects out there, which one does actually bring material benefit to the users and publishers compared with, e.g, Mastodon, Matrix, Movim or Nostr?

Any Thinkpad will do the job. I'm working daily on a T430 and X220 for both my personal and professional web dev work. I've been developing Movim for more that 10years on the same computer https://movim.eu/

For social networking atop XMPP, see https://movim.eu/

Combined with the in-development ActivityPub gateway from Libervia, interop with Mastodon, Pleroma and others becomes possible too. The decentralized social web space is quite active at the moment.

If you don't care at all about poluar figures and just want to share content with people you actually know, https://movim.eu would be a much better alternative.

> No registration needed for group members

This one is the most troublesome I think.

Usually this is in a conferencing solutions though, so no such thing as chat rooms, I think.

Otherwise I would suppose something like XMPP with a web frontend, eg https://movim.eu/

ejabberd supports anonymous users, though I can't say if movim or any else web-client supports that natively

https://www.ejabberd.im/Anonymous-users-support/index.html

That's a very interesting thread, because this is one of the major issues we have with Matrix. It's not directly a product but a (technical) protocol that can't be presented as such to the general public.

We definitely aim for Matrix-based products to be used by the general public, in the same way emails are. For this to happen, we need to be mindful of who our audiences are, what they are looking for, what they know and don't know, and how to deliver a message that works for them.

If you're interested in how we thought the website, you can check https://github.com/matrix-org/matrix.org/issues/1502 and https://github.com/matrix-org/matrix.org/issues/1543 for example

no idea what's going on here; the post hasn't been changed since it was published: https://github.com/matrix-org/matrix.org/commits/main/conten...

Scalar (the integration manager) is not open source [1] (though there was some effort to reverse-engineer its protocol [2]); and some of their anti-abuse scripts aren't public [3]

[1] https://github.com/vector-im/element-meta/issues/260

[2] https://github.com/turt2live/matrix-dimension/blob/master/do...

[3] https://github.com/matrix-org/matrix.org/issues/557

Saw this post and made me a bit concerned that im heading down a bad route. I understand that CF can harvest metadata but as the chats are encrypted it will be all good?