mountaineer
reagent
mountaineer | reagent | |
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4 | 44 | |
826 | 4,730 | |
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9.7 | 4.2 | |
4 days ago | 9 days ago | |
Python | Clojure | |
MIT License | MIT License |
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mountaineer
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Ludic: New framework for Python with seamless Htmx support
I imagine a lot of this comes down to personal preference. In the early days of Mountaineer (gee, almost two months ago at this point), I played around with the idea of embedding html into python instead of needing a JS layer. Eventually my consensus was:
- The most extensive typehinted approaches typically end up wrapping JS/React components anyway (like Reflex/Pinecone)
- We really need better IDE support for html strings that are within python strings. The editing problem is a big setback.
The ergonomics of Python + JS in separate code files won out and the user experience has been better than forcing them both into a common language would be.
This has the benefit of leveraging whatever the two languages are best at, in native code, so you have access to all the native APIs without having to learn a shim on top of it. Way more longevity to that approach too. Context switching between two languages isn't that bad if you minimize the glue layer that you have to write between them.
[^1]: https://github.com/piercefreeman/mountaineer
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This Week In Python
mountaineer – batteries-included web framework for Python and React
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Show HN: Mountaineer – Webapps in Python and React
https://github.com/piercefreeman/mountaineer/tree/1d44cdf1c6...
(In an old commit and stripped out from the current codebase until it has better test coverage and the main codebase is stable)
reagent
- Ask HN: Why React?
- Try Clojure
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Ludic: New framework for Python with seamless Htmx support
Generating `HTML` from lisps has poisoned any other approach for me, see for example https://www.neilvandyke.org/racket/html-writing/, https://reagent-project.github.io/, and https://edicl.github.io/cl-who/
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Produce HTML from S-Expressions
Hiccup syntax for Clojure uses hash maps (curly braces) for attrs, e.g. `{:style {:background "red" :margin "1em"}`
See Reagent which uses Hiccup synta: https://reagent-project.github.io/
(defn simple-component []
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A History of Clojure (2020) [pdf]
* Single-Page App: shadow-cljs for the build concerns (https://github.com/thheller/shadow-cljs), Reagent with Re-frame for complex/large app (https://reagent-project.github.io and https://github.com/day8/re-frame). Even if we now prefer using HTMX (https://htmx.org) and server-side rendering (Hiccup way of manipulating HTML is just amazing, https://github.com/weavejester/hiccup).
- Leaving Clojure - Feedback for those that care
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Clojure is a product design tool
The API documentation lists the most commonly and rarely used parts before going into detail and there are many usage examples.
Reagent has a nice intro tutorial (classic todo-app): http://reagent-project.github.io and many other helpful tutorials and resources for beginners: https://cljdoc.org/d/reagent/reagent/1.2.0/doc/documentation...
However, since Reagent is still stuck with class-components for more complex behavior and relies on Hiccup, which is nice but has a performance cost compared to pure React, I am unsure about its future. Like some others in the Clojure community, I have moved to thin React wrappers like Helix and use Refx to integrate those with re-frame. It may be a bit confusing right now for beginners since there is no “golden path”.
Also, unfortunately, many smaller libraries are poorly documented and it seems like it is expected from the developer to dig into the source code to find out what’s going on.
What I found the most difficult as a beginner was how to setup a project in ClojureScript in the first place, like all the configuration in shadow-cljs, how it interacts with deps.edn, how it integrates with npm, the REPL, etc. But dev/build config has always been a weak spot for me, so it might be just that.
Overall, I still very much enjoy working with Clojure(Script), more than in any other language. Anyone who likes Lisps and functional programming should give it a try (and be sure to watch Rich Hickeys amazing talks!).
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Ask HN: How can a BE/infra developer handle the FE side of personal projects?
have you tried cljs and reagent? it’s a different vibe.
my bootstrap: https://github.com/nathants/aws-gocljs
the project: https://reagent-project.github.io/
- What are the enduring innovations of Lisp? (2022)
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Building a website like it's 1999... in 2022
Clojure people have been doing this for a decade or so. It’s really so much better to work with. All started with Hiccup and when React came along you got Reagent and many more developments building on the idea.
What are some alternatives?
anansi-tags - Apply markdown to Python strings to get ANSI
helix - A simple, easy to use library for React development in ClojureScript.
re-frame - A ClojureScript framework for building user interfaces, leveraging React
shadow-cljs - ClojureScript compilation made easy
fulcro-rad-demo - A demo for Fulcro RAD using either SQL or Datomic databases.
storybook.js-with-shadow-cljs
hyperscript - Create HyperText with JavaScript.
storybook - Storybook is a frontend workshop for building UI components and pages in isolation. Made for UI development, testing, and documentation.
nvd-clojure - National Vulnerability Database dependency checker for Clojure projects
solid-site - Code that powers the SolidJS.com platform.
fulcro - A library for development of single-page full-stack web applications in clj/cljs
purescript-halogen - A declarative, type-safe UI library for PureScript.