modern-todomvc-vanillajs VS eureka

> React takes us forward in the sense that most of us don't want to go back to direct DOM manipulation

There was recently a demo of what a Todo MVC app might look like if written in vanilla JS with today's apis. It looks fairly decent; I could see myself going back to something like that:

https://frontendmasters.com/blog/vanilla-javascript-todomvc/

>> Does not trigger when modified from the same page

I'm thinking that's the purpose of https://github.com/1Marc/todomvc-vanillajs-2022/blob/main/js... - without dispatching that custom save event, there wouldn't be a way to react at any other locations on the same page to the store updating.

Here's an example of building a well-structured, maintainable web-site using JavaScript, HTML and CSS: https://github.com/wisercoder/eureka/tree/master/webapp/Clie...

It doesn't use React (imagine the horror!), instead it uses two tine 500-line libs.

> a literal 5-20x productivity boost

Not really. See a better way here: https://github.com/wisercoder/eureka

I'm not quite seeing React being used, just JSX though? All the view and state updating is being done manually, but it looks fairly well-organised. There are small optimisations like debouncing onInput with a timeout (avoiding rapid re-rendering for every character typed): https://github.com/wisercoder/eureka/blob/master/webapp/Clie...

React works well for simple, non-interactive components. Complex, interactive components are going to have state. Stateful components don't work so well in React. If you want to update props in a stateful component, the recommendation is to replace the component entirely by changing its key. At the point all of the benefits of React (preservation of selection, caret position, scroll position etc.) vanish. You might as well use vanilla js instead of React.

What does using Vanilla JS look like? Here's an example: https://github.com/wisercoder/eureka It uses two tiny 500-line libs. It uses TSX files, just like React. It has components, just like React. It doesn't have incremental screen update, but neither does React, if your components are interactive and stateful.