panel VS joystick

Webcomponents will outlive React 13, mostly likely. Will they outlive React entirely or its cousins like Solid and Svelte? Perhaps not.

Webcomponents and React look like they solve the same problem but they do not.

Webcomponent api is pretty shallow. You get connected/disconnnected/attributeChanged call back but gotta write your own property setter and getters, and that’s mostly it. Shadow dom becomes a pain to work with if something needs to pierce it. Can’t pass nested objects in attributes, gotta encode as string.

Mixpanel went all in on webcomponents, but had to build a whole bunch of lib tooling around it. They made their own framework on top of webcomponents. https://github.com/mixpanel/panel

Worked on panel lib and webcomponent UI for many years. It is not a silver bullet.

The issue with webcomponents is there are a ton of libraries that fill in the missing gaps. There’s not a lot you can do with pure vanilla webcomponent api since browsers don’t provide efficient dom updating mechanism. Google has their own thing, Microsoft had multiple internal libs across orgs, Reddit does their own thing.

The most standard thing for frontend with wide adoption right now is React.

So the way I see it, is that React has already outlived webcomponents.

I built a full-stack JS framework [1] that I thought would be a hit. As best as I can tell, because it lacks the complexity/word salad of existing solutions, it's mostly been ignored despite being (imo) an elegant solution to a long-standing problem.

[1] https://cheatcode.co/joystick

SEEKING WORK, Tennessee, United States

Remote: Yes

I'm a full-stack, JavaScript/Node.js developer and designer. I'm the creator of the Joystick JavaScript framework [1], Push deployment service [2], and Mod CSS framework [3].

I also have experience with MongoDB, PostgreSQL, and MariaDB (limited but competent) and devops (K8s + Docker and bare-metal linux admin, the latter preferred for simplicity/stability).

Currently looking to take on clients who are open to using Joystick, Push, and Mod to design and develop their app. Because it's still at a pre-release version, I'm willing to work out deals around pricing to get some more test-cases under my belt. Ideal client is a solopreneur w/ funding or entrepreneur with previous experience + funding. Open to working with startups (early or established), but only on greenfield projects where use of Joystick is ok.

Email: [email protected].

[1] https://cheatcode.co/joystick

[2] https://cheatcode.com/push

[3] https://cheatcode.co/mod

There is. I was frustrated by all of the chaos and built a solution [1]. Not too far of from an RC1 and then a 1.0 (which is being done slowly so I can freeze APIs and avoid the typical JS rug pulls).

[1] https://github.com/cheatcode/joystick

I've been (slowly) writing a new type of OSS license around this exact concept so it's easier to (legally) stop LLMs hoovering up IP [1] (under "derivative works not permitted").

[1] https://github.com/cheatcode/joystick/blob/development/LICEN...

Joystick [1] will let you go. No Stockholm syndrome. No lotion in the basket.

[1] https://github.com/cheatcode/joystick