mix_install_examples VS single_file_phx_bumblebee_ml

Ya, it's fair, it's a common complaint! Though the size of the generated files is nothing compared to Rails :D

You're right that phx_new does count too. It's a bit misunderstood that Phoenix is actually closer to a micro-framework like Flask than it is a full-fledged solution like Django or Rails. What takes it up to their level is `mix phx.new`, so your argument is more on point than I initially thought. The LiveView issue tracker even provides a single-file version of a Phoenix app to re-create your issue in [0]. As you can see, it's not as simple as something like Flask, but not as complex as the generator does.

Again, great article and happy to have you aboard ;)

Also, if you want an auth solution without code generation, there is Pow [1]

[0] https://github.com/wojtekmach/mix_install_examples/blob/main...

- learning how to compute the checksum of the internal content of a zip file https://github.com/etalab/transport-site/blob/master/scripts...

As mentioned in the article, I can definitely recommend to check out https://github.com/wojtekmach/mix_install_examples which has a long list of examples.

Streaming ChatGPT via SSE in Elixir: https://github.com/wojtekmach/mix_install_examples/pull/22#i...

love elixir. hate Mix.

it's like using Maven or npm all over again. but even worse because it generates a lot of code.

it creates disposable projects by design. No way to keep track of what to change when mix create outputs something different next year.

and now things like https://github.com/wojtekmach/mix_install_examples/blob/main... where is ecto even installed? download from where? so annoying this trend.

Like others have told you, Phoenix doesn't really add much complexity / fat / weight. In terms of complexity, if you don't want to use phx_new to boostrap the project here's a sample of using Phoenix LiveView in a single script file: https://github.com/wojtekmach/mix_install_examples/blob/main/phoenix_live_view.exs

If you want to play around with Ecto in isolation, you can (thanks to `Mix.install/2`) work in single-files, all containing the migrations, the schemas and configuration.

Check-out this repository for an example (and other single-file examples):

https://github.com/wojtekmach/mix_install_examples/blob/main...

The application is entirely built in Elixir, with Phoenix and its LiveView for a plausible experience, both for visitors and myself writing it (I wouldn't say I like Javascript!). The whole app is single-file Elixir, and I took a lot of inspiration from Chris McCord's image classification app.

The image classification app[0] written by Chris (creator of Phoenix) is IMO nicer example of single file Elixir/Phoenix app. I had some inspirational moments. Yes, I know it was probably linked on HN before.

[0] https://github.com/chrismccord/single_file_phx_bumblebee_ml