mgmt VS lipgloss

> I think etcd is basically a k8s only project now

I hate etcd with the best of them, but etcd is used in a lot more places than just kubernetes:

https://github.com/apache/apisix/blob/master/docs/en/latest/...

https://github.com/traefik/traefik#:~:text=Etcd,

https://github.com/zalando/patroni#patroni-a-template-for-po...

https://github.com/purpleidea/mgmt/tree/0.0.26/etcd (this one shows up on HN quite a bit)

https://github.com/sorintlab/stolon#features

It's actually one of the major reasons I wouldn't touch those projects

This is a new provisioning tool built with https://github.com/purpleidea/mgmt/ that I hope both provides great value and also demonstrates the start of a new way to build certain kinds of software.

Thanks for reading!

I've looked briefly into this project before. Some ideas are similar to what I'm doing in https://github.com/purpleidea/mgmt/ but the really weird thing is that I have no idea who's behind this language. A person? A company? A small group? Are they anonymous for some reason or am I oblivious?

I don't generally believe in orchestrators (they miss the point, things are not single computers and neither is the world) and so I have that feedback here but also for:

> Airflow/Cadence/Temporal/Databuilderframework?

Which don't really think about modelling non-centralized things.

This of course doesn't mean they're not useful, it's just that they don't have what I believe is a good long-term value proposition.

I'm incredibly biased because I'm working on programmatic, real-time modelling of distributed systems with https://github.com/purpleidea/mgmt/

The DAG concurrency stuff feels familiar to what I've been doing with our language, mcl. https://github.com/purpleidea/mgmt/

Our goal is NOT a general-purpose turing-complete language like this one is, but we do some amazing lock-free, DAG concurrency things to achieve the processing wins.

I don't think it's good news, but why is anyone surprised? Nobody wants to pay for open source.

Companies want it for free, and individuals don't have enough luxury time to be able to do it themselves.

Prove me wrong and help patch or fund https://github.com/purpleidea/mgmt/ and you'll have an even better replacement for terraform!

Individual here, not a company. We'd love contributors to https://github.com/purpleidea/mgmt/

Eventually decided puppet wasn't a good enough tool to be able to autonomously deploy and continuously manage such clusters. So I started working on this https://github.com/purpleidea/mgmt/ project. Not quite MVP yet, but trying to get there soon. Got distracted along the way with having to work real jobs (Red Hat, Amazon) to pay bills.

I recommend looking at the charm libraries. Lip gloss https://github.com/charmbracelet/lipgloss can provide the styling and bubble tea can handle the screen updates and framework https://github.com/charmbracelet/bubbletea there is a premade progress bar component in bubbles library. https://github.com/charmbracelet/bubbles

I saw https://github.com/charmbracelet/lipgloss and was wondering if there is anything equivalent in the JVM ecosystem. I couldn't find anything so I started crawling its deps tree and reimplementing to fall asleep at night.

nhooyr/websocket, shollz/pake, charmbracelet/bubbles, charmbracelet/bubbletea, charmbracelet/lipgloss, muesli/reflow, klauspost/pgzip and many, many more.

Off the top of my head i am thinking of charmbracelet/lipgloss but I don't know if its the best suited to my use case.

Or, quit worrying about how to fix every utility ever, and just make a nice-looking ZFS TUI with "Are you sure?" boxes and progress bars, using Lip Gloss. That kind of thinking has led to about 50 offshoots of the top utility. (Nothing wrong with that. Long may they all run!)

Predefined colors for lipgloss

Yes i've seen the centered text. Take a look at lipglossif you don't mind adding dependencies, they make the styling much more easier in my opinion.