core VS LibreSignal

An alternative is metacall. The example in the readme is about calling Python from Javascript, but it also works with other languages, like Ruby, C#, Java, and other languages

https://github.com/metacall/core

List of supported languages here https://github.com/metacall/core/blob/develop/docs/README.md...

In the future, maybe webidl (or extensions of it) will bring interoperability between languages too. At the moment there is https://mozilla.github.io/uniffi-rs/ for interoperability between Rust and a number of languages (basically the ones mozilla needs: Swift, Kotlin, Javascript)

Hi, I am writing a Polyglot Runtime called MetaCall, it provides interoperability between many different languages: https://github.com/metacall/core

MetaCall is an extensible, embeddable and interoperable cross-platform polyglot runtime. It supports NodeJS, Vanilla JavaScript, TypeScript, Python, Ruby, C#, Java, WASM, Go, C, C++, Rust, D, Cobol.

I started looking for past selected organizations in February, found an organization named Metacall, which made polyglot programming easy. I made some contributions there. I looked into their past projects and tried to understand how the code base worked. The tech stack was mainly Python, C++, Rust, Nodejs, Docker. I knew very little about these.

MetaCall helps you build serverless applications using a more fine-grained, scalable and NoOps oriented Function Mesh instead of ServiceMesh and DevOps approach. It automagically converts your code into a Function Mesh and auto-scales individual hot parts or functions of your app.

We are building a Polyglot Runtime and we are adding support for Rust, if you are interested you can participate on it: https://github.com/metacall/core

MetaCall Polyglot Runtime MetaCall.io | Install | Docs

I try to avoid any complicated tool and simplify my life with NoOps tools. Using Kubernetes or AWS from scratch is probably going to kill your startup.

In my case, I have tried MetaCall: https://metacall.io

>what does this mean?

Moxie (Signal's founder) has thrown fits in the past over the existence of third-party clients using their servers: https://github.com/libresignal/libresignal/issues/37#issueco...

0: https://github.com/libresignal/libresignal/issues/37

I push back when anyone recommends Signal because they are fundamentally not an open network.

OWS has historically been hostile to third party implementations outside of their clients. There are multiple unofficial options but the only one I've been looking at is the bridge with matrix, though setting up a matrix server just for this is likely overkill.

I have to say that I find him fascinating too, but there are a few things that raise my suspicion, but of course do not convict him of anything:

The way he is attacking this alternative Signal client and rules out interoperability:

https://github.com/LibreSignal/LibreSignal/issues/37#issueco...

Signal was a word before he decided to turn it into a brand.

The signal server source code repo was not updated for a year. Communication intransparent.

https://www.androidpolice.com/2021/04/06/it-looks-like-signa...

I am not even against crypto integration, but I found the choice of MobileCoin odd. Instead of integrating an existing privacy coin or working with the community, he decided to integrate MOB and to be one of their "advisors":

https://techcrunch.com/2018/04/24/mobilecoin-moxie-marlinspi...

https://www.coingecko.com/en/coins/mobilecoin

Is that so surprising? Signal had always a hostile attitude to alternative clients. They have this weird disconnect of the new CEO saying they want to be available to as many people as possible and be a fully commited FOSS app, and then have no version on F-Droid (while Telegram has!) and actively fight alternative clients (see https://github.com/LibreSignal/LibreSignal/issues/37#issueco...)

Because of this hostility Signal is not a trustworthy organization at all.

LibreSignal existed before Moxie was like “no, don’t”: https://github.com/LibreSignal/LibreSignal

They have shut down third party clients, and resve the roght to continue that.

https://github.com/LibreSignal/LibreSignal/issues/37#issueco...

1) You need to audit that code, which.. everyone will have to do.

2) https://signal.org/blog/reproducible-android/

> the Signal Android codebase includes some native shared libraries that we employ for voice calls (WebRTC, etc). At the time this native code was added, there was no Gradle NDK support yet, so the shared libraries aren’t compiled with the project build.

a good answer in my opinion, but it means what you run from the play store is not reproducible and thus can never really be confirmed to be what the sources actually include. There are also binary blobs needed for interacting with Google Play.

3) Signal is openly hostile to third party client implementations: https://github.com/LibreSignal/LibreSignal/issues/37

Moxie Marlinspike on May 5th 2016:

> I'm not OK with LibreSignal using our servers, and I'm not OK with LibreSignal using the name "Signal." You're free to use our source code for whatever you would like under the terms of the license, but you're not entitled to use our name or the service that we run.

> If you think running servers is difficult and expensive (you're right), ask yourself why you feel entitled for us to run them for your product.

Moxie Marlinspike left Signal this January[2] 2022.

Whose to say whether there will be any change, but it's been interesting seeing Signal as a somewhat defended property. Although various third party clients/tools/libraries do exist already.

The claim that running servers is expensive would have been more interesting, imo, had there been any viable way to run your own. But for a long while Signal server source code wasn't being updated at all.

[1] https://github.com/LibreSignal/LibreSignal/issues/37#issueco...

[2] https://signal.org/blog/new-year-new-ceo/