lurch VS Movim

Do `torify git clone https://github.com/gkdr/lurch/

the omemo support in pidgin is just through a plugin, as with many recent XEPs. i think people tend to forget that pidgin's focus is being a multi-protocol messenger. it ships with XMPP support, but that mostly includes the base.

i wrote that omemo plugin and tbh I am pretty burned out. so many moving parts, it's hell to debug and i'm not even sure where to go next with it. (plus people keep talking badly about pidgin anyway and i am not sure if it's even worth continuing.) i am very thankful for all the contributions so far, especially the help with packaging it. sorry if someone feels let down.

i feel like this is the right moment to ask: if anyone reading has an idea how to improve the state of things, i'd be happy about some suggestions. the project page is https://github.com/gkdr/lurch

Neben der normalen Version von lurch die zuletzt 2018 geupdatet wurde gibt es noch den dev build der wesentlich besser funktioniert und wo das letzte Update erst 5 Tage her ist. Allerdings muss man die Version entweder selbst kompilieren was bei Pidgin unter Windows etwas umständlich ist oder eine bereits kompilierte Version vom 24.07.2020 nutzen. https://github.com/gkdr/lurch/tree/dev https://eion.robbmob.com/lurch/dev/

When https://siskin.im/ is seriously touted as the best iOS client for XMPP, you already lost 50% of the market share in the US. And if you don't have any usable app for 50% of your users in one of the most important markets, you can not really claim "interoperability", can you?

Don't get me wrong, it would be great if more people were using XMPP. Now that I am more involved in the Fediverse space I'm learning how many wheels are being reinvented and XMPP has already solved. If more people learned about https://movim.eu I'd be able to shut off Communick and move on to do something else to do with my life, but the reality is that XMPP failed to achieve critical mass because it never had someone to complete control the protocol.

Let me put it in another way: of all the existing projects out there, which one does actually bring material benefit to the users and publishers compared with, e.g, Mastodon, Matrix, Movim or Nostr?

Any Thinkpad will do the job. I'm working daily on a T430 and X220 for both my personal and professional web dev work. I've been developing Movim for more that 10years on the same computer https://movim.eu/

For social networking atop XMPP, see https://movim.eu/

Combined with the in-development ActivityPub gateway from Libervia, interop with Mastodon, Pleroma and others becomes possible too. The decentralized social web space is quite active at the moment.

If you don't care at all about poluar figures and just want to share content with people you actually know, https://movim.eu would be a much better alternative.

> No registration needed for group members

This one is the most troublesome I think.

Usually this is in a conferencing solutions though, so no such thing as chat rooms, I think.

Otherwise I would suppose something like XMPP with a web frontend, eg https://movim.eu/

ejabberd supports anonymous users, though I can't say if movim or any else web-client supports that natively

https://www.ejabberd.im/Anonymous-users-support/index.html