lieer VS spec

Compare lieer vs spec and see what are their differences.

lieer

Fast email-fetching and sending and two-way tag synchronization between notmuch and GMail (by gauteh)

spec

Domain Connect Specification (by Domain-Connect)
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lieer

Posts with mentions or reviews of lieer. We have used some of these posts to build our list of alternatives and similar projects. The last one was on 2024-01-18.
  • A Million Ways to Die on the Web
    4 projects | news.ycombinator.com | 18 Jan 2024
    I fear this for my gmail. I now use mbsync (lieer[0]) to have my emails synced locally on my homeserver, and then browse it with notmuch[1]. It's an incredibly freeing experience to have all your email on your own machine.

    0: https://github.com/gauteh/lieer

    1: https://notmuch.readthedocs.io/en/latest/man1/notmuch.html

  • Managing email with Notmuch and Emacs
    2 projects | /r/emacs | 4 Jul 2023
    The hardest part of setting up email in Emacs for me personally was figuring out the transport. I still use Gmail, and I'm not proud of that. For many years, I've been thinking about moving my mail somewhere else, but that task is somewhere at the deepest, darkest bottom of my list of priorities. The best mail sync utility that finally worked for me is gmaileer. It works nicely with both - notmuch and mu4e.
  • GUI frontend for notmuch that isn't vim/emacs oriented? Or other maildir + gmail solutions?
    3 projects | /r/archlinux | 25 May 2023
    I'm interested in notmuch and lieer https://github.com/gauteh/lieer to sync gmail labels with local tags. I'm coming from thunderbird and I really want to move to a maildir setup for backup/archival/easy to manage purposes, away from monolithic mbox files, and have some solution for not duplicating tons of data in IMAP folders for the different gmail labels.
  • Automate takeout?
    1 project | /r/degoogle | 15 May 2023
    I use the lieer package, gmi pull, to incrementally pull in new gmail. There's an option to never delete things even if they're deleted on gmail, so it's a great way to keep my mail archive local and prune my gmail to keep it from getting too big.
  • Configure mbsync to work correctly with an Office365 hosted account (propagate changes)?
    1 project | /r/emacs | 23 Oct 2022
    In my experience mbsync is best if using IMAP as it works well with very large IMAP folders. If you happen to be on Gmail and Notmuch then Gmailieer is worth checking out as it provides full two-way label/tag sync between the two.
  • Integrating with Fastmail (New Fastmail API)
    6 projects | news.ycombinator.com | 27 Sep 2022
    Put everything into a single notmuchmail database. It wil deduplicate the emails and even provide a fast local search interface for all of your mails https://notmuchmail.org/

    For gmail you can use lieer to pull everything https://github.com/gauteh/lieer (tho it can take hours to pull ewerything). Fastmail has a similar tool https://github.com/elizagamedev/mujmap

    If you unpack tour mbox into maildir then you can import that too into notmuch

    After everything is in notmuch you can easily push everything to fastmail with isync/mbsync https://isync.sourceforge.io/

    As a bonus point you now also have a easily updatable local backup of your e-mails.

  • offlineimap cannot find file - I think I'm missing something basic
    1 project | /r/emacs | 22 Sep 2022
  • Will mu4e+mbsync not work for Gmail after this month?
    2 projects | /r/emacs | 19 May 2022
    As long as lieer (a.k.a. gmailieer) works, I don't have a problem at all. It's much faster than mbsync. And it should work with both notmuch (which I use) and mu4e.
  • mujmap -- Synchronize JMAP mail with notmuch
    3 projects | /r/emacs | 9 May 2022
    I have just released a tool to synchronize notmuch mail with a JMAP server. It's very similar to lieer, which is a tool that does essentially the same but for GMail. JMAP mailboxes behave very similarly to GMail labels, meaning that each tag that doesn't get mapped to a special keyword (e.g. $seen, $draft, etc) is mapped to its own "label".
  • ogseq and lieer sync and search of Gmail labels
    1 project | /r/logseq | 6 Feb 2022
    Is there some integration Logseq with lieer ( ex gmaileer ) or Gmail web interface or maybe another email client?

spec

Posts with mentions or reviews of spec. We have used some of these posts to build our list of alternatives and similar projects. The last one was on 2022-09-27.
  • Show HN: Make domain verification as easy as verifying an email or phone number
    1 project | news.ycombinator.com | 5 May 2023
    - It's far simpler to implement, once email verification is taken care the actual Domain Verification check is five lines of code.

    > It works, and works well, and is supported by all the major domain providers.

    You're right that registrar adoption is quite high, which is because it was a GoDaddy and 1&1 (now IONOS) initiative but when I last checked it wasn't implemented at Google, Facebook and many of the others larger providers for domain verification (to be clear: neither is my solution!!!)

    1. https://github.com/Domain-Connect/spec/blob/master/Domain%20... (http://www.domainconnect.org currently failing with cert expiry)

    2. https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=35828772

    3. https://domainverification.org/create-record

  • Integrating with Fastmail (New Fastmail API)
    6 projects | news.ycombinator.com | 27 Sep 2022
    IMO this is an API that should be implemented on your end (dnsimple), not theirs. There are a relatively small number of DNS providers which all provide essentially the same interface (CRUD operations on records), but there are a huge number of services that need to set up DNS records, including open source projects self-hosted by many individuals. It's not realistic for DNS providers to implement integration with every possible service, but the opposite is totally doable.

    If dnsimple implemented something like DomainConnect, Fastmail could easily integrate. And it's a win-win because it sends traffic your way.

    As I said, I found[0] DomainConnect to not be a good fit for open source projects in its current form. I've done some work on a new protocol which you can learn more about here[1]. Would be interested to hear your thoughts from the perspective of a DNS provider.

    [0]: https://github.com/Domain-Connect/spec/issues/64

    [1]: https://takingnames.io/blog/introducing-takingnames-io

  • Mess with DNS
    2 projects | news.ycombinator.com | 15 Dec 2021
    Yeah, I read the website and the entire spec. I think it's pretty good, but it's built by big names for big names. There's nothing wrong with that, but I'm concerned it might not be appropriate for things like self-hosting open source projects. Hopefully I'm wrong. I'm having a good discussion with the spec developers here: https://github.com/Domain-Connect/spec/issues/64

What are some alternatives?

When comparing lieer and spec you can also consider the following projects:

gnome-gmail - Integrate GMail into the Linux Desktop

tmail-flutter - A multi-platform (Flutter) application for reading your emails, with your favorite devices, using the JMAP protocol!

email-oauth2-proxy - An IMAP/POP/SMTP proxy that transparently adds OAuth 2.0 authentication for email clients that don't support this method.

mujmap - Bridge for synchronizing email and tags between JMAP and notmuch

bar-gmail - A Polybar module to show unread messages from Gmail

maskedemail-cli - CLI to create fastmail masked emails

imap-backup - Backup and Migrate IMAP Email Accounts

clients - Bitwarden client applications (web, browser extension, desktop, and cli)

ImapSync - Imapsync is an IMAP transfers tool. The purpose of imapsync is to migrate IMAP accounts or to backup IMAP accounts. IMAP is one of the three current standard protocols to access mailboxes, the two others are POP3 and HTTP with webmails, webmails are often tied to an IMAP server. Upstream website is

imapfw - imapfw (IMAP/mail framework)