ladybird VS Surfingkeys

A browser is not a web app, it doesn't have a strict separation of "frontend" and "backend" in the same sense that a web app would have; the lines are drawn quite differently. The rendering engine is never "just" the rendering engine; you can't abstract or swap it without tremendous effort.

If you'd like to learn more about how a web browser project would organize its internal architecture, but are discouraged by the complexity of Chromium, Firefox, etc. I'd recommend source diving Ladybird (https://github.com/SerenityOS/ladybird), NetSurf (https://www.netsurf-browser.org/), or Dillo (https://www.dillo.org/).

I'd love to see a stable version of a brand new web browser, not based on Blink or Gecko, such as Ladybird or Flow Browser. Competition is a good thing.

note, native Windows is not currently supported:

https://github.com/SerenityOS/ladybird/issues/113

Google is dominating, pushing through Android and via Googles-Webservices and Microsoft is using it now. A reason to worry because developing new web-engine requires an big effort. For instance Microsoft only allows usage of Microsoft Teams Web with a webbrowser based upon Blink. So were back in 2002?

WebKit features also WebKit2Gtk (Epiphany) and Qt5-webkit (Otter) with native integration. They use the native toolkits, which is an advantage! Interaction with the open-source community around WebKit seems rather good and the engine is integrated by others. Gecko seem not to be integrated by others, but by forks only? You remember when Chrome was considered slick and fast? Originally Google used the native toolkit on every platform but know they use an own solution on every platform, like Firefox.

Maybe there is a new kid on the block:

https://github.com/SerenityOS/ladybird

Funny you should ask: https://github.com/SerenityOS/ladybird

I've not heard of Ladybird before. True, it's a free and open browser engine and a very interesting project!

I don't mind posting it, but be aware it's not an Obsidian script, I use from the browser, using it from an extension called SurfingKeys

For the privacy-conscious interested in SK, it may be worth a read of this GH issue: https://github.com/brookhong/Surfingkeys/issues/1796

I empathise with the author wanting to make a buck but it's hard to reconcile the approach he took with the level of trust granted to this extension.

Was this issue about the bundled search hijacker resolved in some sort of positive way? I abandoned SurfingKeys as soon as I heard about that and haven't looked at it again. It'd be nice if that was all rolled back, but I switched to Vimium and haven't found it to be particularly worse, at least not for the way that I browse the web. The only thing that I've been missing is the vim-like text editor but, for me, that's a relatively minor feature; I don't write giant comments that often.

Moved from it in favor of more features that surfingkeys provide. If you know a little bit of javascript you can conquer your browser!

Tridactyl's key feature is "native messaging".

A further alternative is https://github.com/brookhong/Surfingkeys. Its key feature is a javascript configuration - allowing you to bind arbitrary javascript to a key.