kobweb VS Micronaut

Done, added "Other" and "None of the above" options. Thanks for the feedback! Btw, were you talking about this library: https://github.com/varabyte/kobweb?

Aaaaand sourcemap config done: https://github.com/varabyte/kobweb/commit/84e17b710d92332efdb37abb887e546a7f03c73d

(For people who don't know Kobweb, you can read more at https://github.com/varabyte/kobweb, but until I update it, please replace "Compose for Web" to "Compose HTML" in your head, thanks!)

I'm actively working on https://github.com/varabyte/kobweb, which builds on top of Compose for Web and adds some extra support to make it a little easier for Android developers to get into. (You will ultimately need to learn html / css but I believe Kobweb makes that a little easier to start getting used to it).

https://github.com/varabyte/kobweb is Compose for Web using DOM rendering instead of Canvas with a Jamstack like approach. Worth to try and if it later upgrade from Kotlin/JS to Kotlin/Wasm, it could really become something big …

I'm working on https://github.com/varabyte/kobweb which is not mature, but you might want to check it out anyway?

This is indeed a very important point, and I care deeply about that.

For Compose for Web, there has been I think a lot of debate to decide if the Web rendering should be Canvas or DOM based. At least for now, it seems the official support is focusing on Canvas rendering for pixel-perfect rendering, and it already works with Koltin/Wasm, see https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=34779746. This choice is probably driven by Kotlin current mobile app main use case.

But via community-driven project like https://github.com/varabyte/kobweb or https://github.com/mpetuska/kmdc, Compose for Web can also be a good Web citizen and perform DOM based rendering.

I'm working on an opinionated framework on top of their framework called Kobweb, but depending on your goals it may be sightly too early to use it.

This may not help but I have a working ktor server in my project. Here's my Gradle config: https://github.com/varabyte/kobweb/blob/main/backend/server/build.gradle.kts

Micronaut has a share of the space too.

https://micronaut.io/

However, you’re right that Spring Boot has the lions share of the Java ecosystem.

I've used vert.x in a big project once. I don't ever want to do that again. Performance is pretty good, but the developer experience is beyond clunky.

My current favourite Java server framework is Micronaut.

Great performance and easy to develop for!

https://micronaut.io/

I wonder how much you'd save with Micronaut: https://micronaut.io/

> Micronaut is a software framework for the Java virtual machine platform. It is designed to avoid reflection, thus reducing memory consumption and improving start times. Features which would typically be implemented at run-time are instead pre-computed at compile time.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Micronaut_(framework)

I don't think you'd go down to 9, but something like 20-30 could be doable.

I'd like to introduce my project. It is called mlfx. It can compile FXML ahead of time. It is basically an annotation processor, which internally uses Micronaut framework's AST abstraction and compiles fxml files directly to JVM bytecode. This decreases UI load time and also helps with native-image reflection configs. It also has some compliance tests that load compiled code and check resulting object graph against one loaded by javafx-xml. It also has some drawbacks now, but, please, read README. Now I'm successfully using it in two production projects.

https://micronaut.io/ https://quarkus.io/

when it comes to full stack frameworks, Micronaut(https://micronaut.io/) is actually good and pleasant to work with.

For the server Quarkus and Micronaut might be interesting besides Spring Boot. Quarkus is more popular and backed by RedHat (so probably here to stay).

🥇 Spring Boot 🥈 Quarkus 🥉 Micronaut 🏅 Ktor 🏅 http4k

Spring boot is still The King. Although I've not done more than hello world with Micronaut, it might have easier learning curve than Spring (and concepts are similar to Spring so you can carry over later to learn Spring). It could also be a useful skill in world of microservices these days.