kit
Graal
kit | Graal | |
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34 | 156 | |
447 | 19,807 | |
1.1% | 0.5% | |
8.0 | 10.0 | |
8 days ago | 2 days ago | |
Clojure | Java | |
MIT License | GNU General Public License v3.0 or later |
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kit
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Ask HN: What is your go-to stack for the web?
Clojure using for the server side https://github.com/kit-clj/kit
htmx for frontend, using the built-in kit htmx module.
- Kit – Clojure Web Development
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Why Is Jepsen Written in Clojure?
I am not sure what a web framework is, to be honest. The choices for many parts of a web application are really domain-specific and I'm not sure a single "framework" would work for everyone.
As far as web-related components go, my app uses Rum (as an interface to React), ring, http-kit, pushy (for history manipulation), sente (for websockets), buddy (for authentication tools).
If you are looking for a batteries-included "I want to have some sort of webapp right away" thing, I think https://kit-clj.github.io would fit the bill, but the general feeling in the Clojure community is that unlike Python with Django or Ruby with Rails, the choice of app components is not predetermined by the language.
- A History of Clojure (2020) [pdf]
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Most commonly used libraries/frameworks in Clojure
Luminus has, in theory, been superseded by Kit: https://kit-clj.github.io/ but even so it is still "an opinionated bundle of libraries" rather than a framework.
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Is there an open source project focused on ClojureScript, React, Reagent?
I learned by using https://luminusweb.com/docs/clojurescript.html to get me started. It gives you a plethora of sane starting points, and you can just work on switching it to your own business logic. Troubleshooting and adding functionality will usually lead you to understand how things work. The authors of luminus have moved on to build kit: https://kit-clj.github.io/ which is probably another good starting point.
- Help finding a webdev framework that works out of the box
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Clojure Turns 15 panel discussion video
The cljs stack I hear about a lot (and use) is ShadowCLJS with reagent (https://reagent-project.github.io/) and re-frame (https://day8.github.io/re-frame/). ShadowCLJS is more of a build tool, but is really well documented and easy to use. Reagent is basically react but a simpler API, and re-frame is a layer on top of that provides data subscriptions and event-handlers to manage app state. It's overkill for some apps but I find it's actually super easy to work with and not as much complexity as I thought.
For backend there is luminus (https://luminusweb.com/) or Kit (https://kit-clj.github.io/). They are basically project templates that wire together a ton of popular solutions for various things - database access, migrations, security, html templating, etc. Also includes frontend frameworks like re-frame if you want.
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your thoughts on the kit framework?
The component itself is just a thin wrapper for conman, you can see it here.
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Ask HN: Share Your Personal Site
Here’s me: https://luciano.laratel.li/
I was happy I could get the domain! Pretty simple hand-rolled server-rendered site using the kit-clj[0] and neat-css[1]. Main backbone of the site is here[2]. I used to use a CLJS SPA but it was overkill and not as nice to use (load times particularly.)
[0]: https://kit-clj.github.io/
Graal
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Java 23: The New Features Are Officially Announced
Contrary to what vocal Kotlin advocates might believe, Kotlin only matters on Android, and that is thanks to Google pushing it no matter what.
https://spectrum.ieee.org/the-top-programming-languages-2023
https://snyk.io/reports/jvm-ecosystem-report-2021/
And even so, they had to conceed Android and Kotlin on their own, without the Java ecosystem aren't really much useful, thus ART is now updatable via Play Store, and currently supports OpenJDK 17 LTS on Android 12 and later devices.
As for your question regarding numbers, mostly Java 74.6%, C++ 13.7%, on the OpenJDK, other JVM implementations differ, e.g. GraalVM is mostly Java 91.8%, C 3.6%.
https://github.com/openjdk/jdk
https://github.com/oracle/graal
Two examples from many others, https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Java_virtual_machines
- FLaNK Stack 05 Feb 2024
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Apple releases Pkl – onfiguration as code language
Pkl was built using the GraalVM Truffle framework. So it supports runtime compilation using Futurama Projections. We have been working with Apple on this for a while, and I am quite happy that we can finally read the sources!
https://github.com/oracle/graal/tree/master/truffle
Disclaimer: graalvm dev here.
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Live Objects All the Way Down: Removing the Barriers Between Apps and VMs
That's pretty interesting. It's not as aggressive as Bee sounds, but the Espresso JVM is somewhat similar in concept. It's a full blown JVM written in Java with all the mod cons, which can either be compiled ahead of time down to memory-efficient native code giving something similar to a JVM written in C++, or run itself as a Java application on top of another JVM. In the latter mode it obviously doesn't achieve top-tier performance, but the advantage is you can easily hack on it using all the regular Java tools, including hotswapping using the debugger.
When run like this, the bytecode interpreter, runtime system and JIT compiler are all regular Java that can be debugged, edited, explored in the IDE, recompiled quickly and so on. Only the GC is provided by the host system. If you compile it to native code, the GC is also written in Java (with some special conventions to allow for convenient direct memory access).
What's most interesting is that Espresso isn't a direct translation of what a classical C++ VM would look like. It's built on the Truffle framework, so the code is extremely high level compared to traditional VM code. Details like how exactly transitions between the interpreter/compiled code happen, how you communicate pointer maps to the GC and so on are all abstracted away. You don't even have to invoke the JIT compiler manually, that's done for you too. The only code Espresso really needs is that which defines the semantics of the Java bytecode language and associated tools like the JDWP debugger protocol.
https://github.com/oracle/graal/tree/master/espresso
This design makes it easy to experiment with new VM features that would be too difficult or expensive to implement otherwise. For example it implements full hotswap capability that lets you arbitrarily redefine code and data on the fly. Espresso can also fully self-host recursively without limit, meaning you can achieve something like what's described in the paper by running Espresso on top of Espresso.
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Crash report and loading time
I'm also using GraalVM if that's of any help.
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Quarkus 3.4 - Container-first Java Stack: Install with OpenJDK 21 and Create REST API
Quarkus is one of Java frameworks for microservices development and cloud-native deployment. It is developed as container-first stack and working with GraalVM and HotSpot virtual machines (VM).
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Level-up your Java Debugging Skills with on-demand Debugging
Apologies, I didn't mean to imply DCEVM went poof, just that I was sad it didn't make it into OpenJDK so one need not do JDK silliness between the production one and the "debugging one" since my experience is that's an absolutely stellar way to produce Heisenbugs
And I'll be straight: Graal scares me 'cause Oracle but I just checked and it looks to the casual observer that it's straight-up GPLv2 now so maybe my fears need revisiting: https://github.com/oracle/graal/blob/vm-23.1.0/LICENSE
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Rust vs Go: A Hands-On Comparison
> to be compiled to a single executable is a strength that Java does not have
I think this is very outdated claim: https://www.graalvm.org/
- Leveraging Rust in our high-performance Java database
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Java 21 makes me like Java again
https://github.com/oracle/graal/issues/7182
What are some alternatives?
biff - A Clojure web framework for solo developers.
Liberica JDK - Free and 100% open source Progressive Java Runtime for modern Javaâ„¢ deployments supported by a leading OpenJDK contributor
duct - Server-side application framework for Clojure
Adopt Open JDK - Eclipse Temurinâ„¢ build scripts - common across all releases/versions
re-frame-template - A Leiningen template for creating a re-frame application (client only) with a shadow-cljs build.
awesome-wasm-runtimes - A list of webassemby runtimes
react-query - 🤖 Powerful asynchronous state management, server-state utilities and data fetching for TS/JS, React, Solid, Svelte and Vue. [Moved to: https://github.com/TanStack/query]
SAP Machine - An OpenJDK release maintained and supported by SAP
clojure-inertia-pingcrm-demo - PingCRM on Clojure - A Clojure/Script fullstack demo application to illustrate how Inertia.js works.
maven-jpackage-template - Sample project illustrating building nice, small cross-platform JavaFX or Swing desktop apps with native installers while still using the standard Maven dependency system.
usermanager-reitit-integrant-example - A little demo web app in Clojure, using Integrant, Ring, Reitit, Selmer (and a database)
wasmer - 🚀 The leading Wasm Runtime supporting WASIX, WASI and Emscripten