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jco
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WASI 0.2.0 and Why It Matters
> WASI-Preview2's benefits are not going to be realized in a browser, it's more for the non-web world
The jco project (https://github.com/BytecodeAlliance/jco) provides an implementation of the Component Model and WASI Preview 2 for JavaScript systems. Right now, node.js support is complete, but support for Web embeddings is in progress and coming soon.
> These interpreted languages can run in WASM, but only as language interpreter inside the WASM interpreter - so they work, but they are not efficient.
The Bytecode Alliance has made big improvements to SpiderMonkey performance on WASM/WASI systems, and has work in progress to take advantage of SpiderMonkey's "native" codegen targeting WASM: https://cfallin.org/blog/2023/10/11/spidermonkey-pbl/. We targeted JS first for this work because it is the most popular language with our customers and users, but we expect that this will show the path to adding similar improvements to Ruby, Python, and other languages commonly thought of as "interpreted".
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The New Wasmer JavaScript SDK
I use @wasmer/wasi for my npm package `trealla` (wasm port of a Prolog interpreter). For the most part I'm pretty happy with it, but the file size is quite large[1] (taking up around half my bundle size), and it looks like @wasmer/sdk is even larger (wasmer.sh downloads a 1.7MB gzipped wasm binary that I assume is the runtime). It's a tough sell to the frontend folks when my package is this big... currently I have my eye on jco[2] which I hope will be much lighter.
[1]: https://bundlephobia.com/package/@wasmer/[email protected]
[2]: https://github.com/bytecodealliance/jco
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Lightweight, portable and secure Wasm runtimes and their use cases.
You literally write the code in the language you prefer, and given the toolchain is in place -and it's in (experimental or preview) place for JavaScript, with teams working on it, like for example JCO- you can compile with Wasm as target.
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Prettier $20k Bounty was Claimed
The roadmap I linked above. The WASI folks have done a poor job at communicating, no doubt, but I'm surprised someone like yourself literally building a competitor spec isn't following what they are doing closely.
Just for you I did some googling: see here[0] for the current status of WASI threads overall, or here[1] and here[2] for what they are up to with WASI in general. In this PR[3] you can see they enabled threads (atomic instructions and shared memory, not thread creation) by default in wasmtime. And in this[4] repository you can see they are actively developing the thread creation API and have it as their #1 priority.
If folks want to use WASIX as a quick and dirty hack to compile existing programs, then by all means, have at it! I can see that being a technical win. Just know that your WASIX program isn't going to run natively in wasmtime (arguably the best WASM runtime today), nor will it run in browsers, because they're not going to expose WASIX - they're going to go with the standards instead. so far you're the only person I've met that thinks exposing POSIX fork() to WASM is a good idea, seemingly because it just lets you build existing apps 'without modification'.
Comical you accuse me of being polarizing, while pushing for your world with two competing WASI standards, two competing thread creation APIs, and a split WASM ecosystem overall.
[0] https://github.com/bytecodealliance/jco/issues/247#issuecomm...
[1] https://bytecodealliance.org/articles/wasmtime-and-cranelift...
[2] https://bytecodealliance.org/articles/webassembly-the-update...
[3] https://github.com/bytecodealliance/wasmtime/pull/7285
[4] https://github.com/WebAssembly/shared-everything-threads
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WASM by Example
The component model is already shipping in Wasmtime, and will be stable for use in Node.js and in browsers via jco (https://github.com/bytecodealliance/jco) soon. WASI Preview 2 will be done in December or January, giving component model users a stable set of interfaces to use for scheduling, streams, and higher level functionality like stdio, filesystem, sockets, and http on an opt-in basis. You should look at wit-bindgen (https://github.com/bytecodealliance/wit-bindgen) to see some of the languages currently supported, and more that will be mature enough to use very soon (https://github.com/bytecodealliance/componentize-py)
Right now jco will automatically generate the JS glue code which implements a Component Model runtime on top of the JS engine's existing WebAssembly implementation. So, yes, Components are a composition of Wasm Modules and JS code is handling passing values from one module/instance to another. You still get the performance benefits of running computation in Wasm.
One day further down the standardization road, we would like to see Web engines ship a native implementation of the Component Model, which might be able to make certain optimizations that the JS implementation cannot. Until then you can consider jco a polyfill for a native implementation, and it still gives you the power to compose isolated programs written in many languages and run them in many different contexts, including the Web.
(Disclosure: I am co-chair of WASI, Wasmtime maintainer, implemented many parts of WASI/CM)
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Spin 2.0 – open-source tool for building and running WASM apps
(As a side note for the JS support — adapting QuickJS has been extremely helpful in getting JS support out; however, we are in the process of rebuilding the JS runtime using SpiderMonkey (with which a few people on the team have significant experience) and JCO (https://github.com/bytecodealliance/jco), and the web platform compatibility makes it a significantly better proposition for things like 3rd party dependencies).
C# is an interesting one — the .NET team at Microsoft (and in particular Steve Sanderson from that team) has been making tremendous progress in ahead-of-time compilation for .NET and generating Wasm and WASI compatible binaries (as opposed to their initial approach on Blazor), and experimenting with that led us to build support for Spin as well.
Finally, we do a lot to support other popular languages and their Wasm support — two examples: Python (https://github.com/bytecodealliance/componentize-py) and Java / TeaVM (https://github.com/fermyon/teavm-wasi), for which we haven't fully integrated Spin support, but we hope to get there soon.
I hope this explains a bit our process on language support, happy to expand on any point here.
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Extism Makes WebAssembly Easy
That's really useful. This page in particular: https://github.com/bytecodealliance/jco/blob/main/EXAMPLE.md
Being able to run "jco wit cowsay.wasm" to see what interfaces that .wasm file provides solves a problem I've run into a bunch of times in the past.
- Sandboxing JavaScript Code
teavm
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Spin 2.0 – open-source tool for building and running WASM apps
Joel from our team worked on the initial prototype for WASI support in TeaVM (https://github.com/konsoletyper/teavm/pull/610), and we temporarily forked before the WASI support made it to the official repo.
Good reminder to deprecate that now!
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Bring garbage collected programming languages efficiently to WebAssembly
A number of concerns with the viability of the current WASM GC are covered here (Google translation to English):
https://habr-com.translate.goog/ru/articles/757182/?_x_tr_sl...
and the original article:
https://habr.com/ru/articles/757182/
This is from the author of TeaVM, who has 10 years of experience getting Java and JVM code to run efficiently in the browser. https://teavm.org/
TeaVM's existing transpilation of Java to JavaScript performs well (using the browsers JS GC). It will be interesting to see if WASM GC matures to the point where it is even faster.
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Play Runescape Classic Again
Uses this apparently: https://github.com/konsoletyper/teavm
- ASP.NET Core Dev Team Launches 'Blazor United' Push for .NET 8
- Pure Java Typesetting System
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Embed your Doom in Java with GraalVM Wasm.
How does this compare to say the TeaVM (https://github.com/konsoletyper/teavm) which I know only has "experimental" WASM support at the moment?
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Regex101.com needs help getting a small Rust WASM binary
For Java, no WASM file is requested. Maybe the Java code was transpiled to JavaScript, perhaps using TeaVM.
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Oracle Contributing GraalVM Community Edition Java Code to OpenJDK
>> It's not like you can take a random JAR and convert it to WASM.
Maybe you can:
TeaVM is an ahead-of-time compiler for Java bytecode that emits JavaScript and WebAssembly that runs in a browser. Its close relative is the well-known GWT. The main difference is that TeaVM does not require source code, only compiled class files. Moreover, the source code is not required to be Java, so TeaVM successfully compiles Kotlin and Scala.
https://teavm.org/
I have never had an opportunity to try out TeaVM, but it seems promising.
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Using Java for the front-end of a web app in 2022
For a fast, lightweight, Java-based front-end, try TeaVM and its Flavour toolkit:
https://teavm.org/
It is easy to get started by using the maven archtetype, there's an tutorial in Java Magazine here:
https://blogs.oracle.com/javamagazine/post/java-in-the-brows...
With TeamVM and Flavour you get a full front-end SPA framework that lets you code business logic in Java, and pair that with HTML and CSS to make components.
To see what it can do, check out Wordii, a fast-paced 5-letter word game:
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TSMC to Begin 3nm Chip Production Next Month, Apple gets first dib
> Someone will make the JRE run on WASM
https://teavm.org/
Minecraft contains some native dependencies, though; you'll need something like https://copy.sh/v86/ or https://bellard.org/jslinux/ with the right operating system image to run it in browser.
What are some alternatives?
componentize-py
Graal - GraalVM compiles Java applications into native executables that start instantly, scale fast, and use fewer compute resources 🚀
modsurfer - Devtools to validate, audit and investigate WebAssembly binaries.
HumbleUI - Clojure Desktop UI framework
quickjs-emscripten - Safely execute untrusted Javascript in your Javascript, and execute synchronous code that uses async functions
teavm-flavour - Framework for writing client-side applications using TeaVM
extism - The framework for building with WebAssembly (wasm). Easily load wasm modules, move data, call functions, and build extensible apps.
spring-fu - Configuration DSLs for Spring Boot
js-string-builtins - JS String Builtins
wasm3 - 🚀 A fast WebAssembly interpreter and the most universal WASM runtime
zig-spin - 🦎 🪀 Zig SDK for the Spin serverless application framework created by @fermyon.
helidon - Java libraries for writing microservices