javalin.github.io VS jte

The size statistics page is super cool: https://github.com/byronka/minum/blob/master/docs/size_compa...

Reasoning this way about software and dependencies more often seems like a good thing, just so we're aware of what we're actually getting into, especially with projects that use npm.

I actually hadn't heard of Javalin before, which also seems nice: https://javalin.io/

Aside from that, I've also had good experiences with Dropwizard - which is way simpler than Spring Boot but at the same time uses a bunch of idiomatic packages (like Jetty, Jersey, Jackson, Logback and so on): https://www.dropwizard.io/en/stable/

I do wonder whether Minum would ever end up on the TechEmpower benchmarks and how it'd stack up against the other libraries/frameworks there, those benchmarks are pretty interesting.

Counter-example: https://javalin.io/ uses Servlets, and seems to be doing quite fine without annotations.

Yes, and it was not that well designed to be honest... the successor is quite a lot nicer and it's called Javalin[1].

Same philosophy but just got things right where Spark, being the "first" (in the Java world, using the design inherited by Sinatra[2]) had a few design issues.

[1] https://javalin.io/

[2] https://sinatrarb.com/

I strongly advocate frameworks like https://javalin.io/ and Jooq (https://www.jooq.org/) if you are going to start a new project in Java.

For java/Kotlin, we are using JTE (https://jte.gg/#getting-started), pretty nice build tooling and IDE support to generate pre-compiled templates without additional code generation steps.

Thanks for the hints! I created an issue for this: https://github.com/casid/jte/issues/240

JTE is a template engine for Java/Kotlin that I've started using recently. While trying to integrate tailwind I've run into issue with the (notorious) IntelliJ tailwind plugin. I've opened a ticket with JetBrains to ask that they add *.kte and *.jte file extensions to the tailwind plugin. If anyone else is keen for this change to be made, please upvote the linked ticket.

Instead of using commonly used frameworks (like Spring Framework) I preffered to use something that is small and doesn't have "magic" in it. So I've chosen Javalin as a simple web framework, added MongoDB client libraries nad jte as template engine. To show that simple and clean looking apps doesn't need any big JS libraries I've selected chota - one of micro CSS frameworks.

Because the code is generated Java code the runtime dependency is minimal and I plan on offering a zero dependency runtime version. I believe to have one of the smallest footprints of Java templating languages and is as fast as jte.

A microframework or Spring Boot + Template Engine such as jte or Thymeleaf gets you far.

I can highly recommend https://github.com/casid/jte