javalin.github.io VS jbang

The size statistics page is super cool: https://github.com/byronka/minum/blob/master/docs/size_compa...

Reasoning this way about software and dependencies more often seems like a good thing, just so we're aware of what we're actually getting into, especially with projects that use npm.

I actually hadn't heard of Javalin before, which also seems nice: https://javalin.io/

Aside from that, I've also had good experiences with Dropwizard - which is way simpler than Spring Boot but at the same time uses a bunch of idiomatic packages (like Jetty, Jersey, Jackson, Logback and so on): https://www.dropwizard.io/en/stable/

I do wonder whether Minum would ever end up on the TechEmpower benchmarks and how it'd stack up against the other libraries/frameworks there, those benchmarks are pretty interesting.

Counter-example: https://javalin.io/ uses Servlets, and seems to be doing quite fine without annotations.

Yes, and it was not that well designed to be honest... the successor is quite a lot nicer and it's called Javalin[1].

Same philosophy but just got things right where Spark, being the "first" (in the Java world, using the design inherited by Sinatra[2]) had a few design issues.

[1] https://javalin.io/

[2] https://sinatrarb.com/

I strongly advocate frameworks like https://javalin.io/ and Jooq (https://www.jooq.org/) if you are going to start a new project in Java.

Its library made by maven folks that allows easy embedding of the resolver. Im about to move it it in jbang https://github.com/jbangdev/jbang/pull/1604

Congratulations. I believe there is room for a micro framework that is smaller than Javalin or SparkJava.

That said, if you want to cash even more on minimalism, you may want to provide a single-file example using JBang[0].

[0]. https://jbang.dev/

These would be awesome changes and fully in the spirit of what we managed to do already in jbang (https://jbang.dev). Having the verbosity removed would make it even better.

big part of why I made jbang.dev so if you want to quickly play with all the suggested technologies in this thread without being a java build tool master do give it a go.

(jbang being https://jbang.dev)

Quarkus provides the option to create command line apps, and this is so kool, since you can also compile these into native. We are just going to make simple app for demo purpose in this blog. But if you are looking into creating some serious nirvana of cli apps take a look at this guide at quarkus.io using picocli or JBang

https://jbang.dev provides a bunch of ways to build and distribute simple java apps.

See https://twitter.com/maxandersen/status/1494600204590501889?s=20 and release at https://github.com/jbangdev/jbang/releases/tag/v0.90.0

~$ sudo apt -q install zip ~$ curl -s "https://get.sdkman.io" | bash ~$ source "$HOME/.sdkman/bin/sdkman-init.sh" ~$ sdk version ~$ ==== BROADCAST ================================================================= * 2022-01-06: connor 1.2.1 available on SDKMAN! https://github.com/helpermethod/connor/releases/tag/v1.2.1 * 2022-01-04: micronaut 3.2.4 available on SDKMAN! * 2022-01-02: jbang 0.86.0 available on SDKMAN! https://github.com/jbangdev/jbang/releases/tag/v0.86.0 ================================================================================ SDKMAN 5.13.1 ~$