influxdb_iox VS pgrx

Watch out for the AGPL minio <https://github.com/metrico/iox-community/blob/155a14bb5e8e32...> the almost certainly AGPL grafana <https://github.com/grafana/grafana/blob/v10.1.1/LICENSE> and always eye anyone who uses :latest images with healthy suspicion

That said, influx_iox itself appears to be Apache 2 (and/or MIT?) https://github.com/influxdata/influxdb_iox/blob/main/LICENSE...

have you looked at https://github.com/influxdata/influxdb_iox ? that's where the development for the new version is done.

As I understand, InfluxDB 3 is just a re-branding of InfluxDB IOx. Then its' performance can be not very good comparing to Prometheus-like systems.

InfluxDB iox

Don't know how much is open or closed, but they were doing some development in the open: https://github.com/influxdata/influxdb_iox

Just want to say congratulations to the team!

2 years and 9,500+ commits is a hell of a feat.

https://github.com/influxdata/influxdb_iox

Already is: https://github.com/influxdata/influxdb_iox Just still a work in progress.

It looks like this crate is the workaround for that. But there's a PR on SQLX opened a couple days ago that will fix the issue.

You should check out polars, datafusion, influxdb iox and databend, all written in native Rust and powered by the Apache Arrow format. Polars in particular is pretty dam fast and has bindings for Python.

Consider also the companies and work behind pgrx [0] and pgzx [1]:

[0] https://github.com/pgcentralfoundation/pgrx

[1] https://github.com/xataio/pgzx

If you like this (I do very much), you might also like pg_idkit[0] which is a little extension with a bunch of other kinds of IDs that you can generate inside PG, thanks to the seriously awesome pgrx[1] and Rust.

[0]: https://github.com/VADOSWARE/pg_idkit

[1]: https://github.com/pgcentralfoundation/pgrx

(disclosure, i work at supabase and have been developing TLEs with the RDS team)

Trusted Language Extensions refer to an extension written in any trusted language. In this case Rust, but it also includes: plpgsql, plv8, etc. See [0]

> PL/Rust is a more performant and more feature-rich alternative to PL/pgSQL

This is only partially true. plpgsql has bindings to low-level Postgres APIs, so in some cases it is just as fast (or faster) than Rust.

> Building a vector index (or any index for that matter) inside Postgres is a more involved process and can not be done via the UDF interface, be it Rust, C or PL/pgSQL

Most PG Rust extensions are written with the excellent pgrx framework [1]. While it doesn't have index bindings right now, I can certainly imagine a future where this is possible[2].

All that said - I think there are a lot of hoops to jump through right now and I doubt it's worth it for the Latern team. I think they are right to focus on developing a separate C extension

[0] TLE: https://supabase.com/blog/pg-tle

[1] pgrx: https://github.com/pgcentralfoundation/pgrx

[2] https://github.com/pgcentralfoundation/pgrx/issues/190#issue...

I’m currently playing with PostgreSQL, foreign data wrappers, and pgrx rust extensions. My development experience has been surprisingly smooth and enjoyable.

My main issue is that joins will be processed locally, so all the foreign data will be fetched before the join happens. But otherwise basic CRUD is easy.

https://wiki.postgresql.org/wiki/Foreign_data_wrappers

https://github.com/pgcentralfoundation/pgrx

https://github.com/supabase/wrappers

I think maybe what you’re really looking for are the files here: https://github.com/pgcentralfoundation/pgrx/tree/c2eac033856...

Those are the internals we currently expose as unsafe “sys” bindings.

As we/contributors identify more that are desired we add them.

pgrx’ focus is on providing safe wrappers and general interfaces to the Postgres internals, which is the bulk of our work and is what will take many years.

As unsafe bindings go, we could just expose everything, and likely eventually will. There’s just some practical management concerns around doing that without a better namespace organization —- something we’ve been working.

The Postgres sources are not small. They are very complex, inconsistent in places, and often follow patterns that are specific to Postgres and not easy to generalize.

If you’ve never built an extension with pgrx, give it a shot one afternoon. It’s very exciting to see your own code running in your database.

pgrx is one of the greatest enabling innovations in the PG ecosystem in a long time.

Awesome to see so many high quality extensions come out of it.

https://github.com/pgcentralfoundation/pgrx

If you're interested in what my Threadripper 3970X does with it, there's some numbers in this PR: https://github.com/tcdi/pgrx/pull/1147