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Nothing Chats – iMessage on Android
The nothing website claims:
> Nothing Chats is built on Sunbird's platform and all Chats messages are end-to-end encrypted, meaning neither we nor Sunbird can access the messages you're sending and receiving.
> Nothing is powered by Sunbird, and Sunbird's architecture provides a system to deliver a message from one user to another without ever storing it at any point in its journey. Messages are not stored on Sunbird's servers and are only live on your device – once a message is delivered, it can only be recovered locally from your personal device.
From: https://us.nothing.tech/pages/nothing-chats
The Verge claims:
> Marques Brownlee has also had a preview of Nothing Chats. He confirmed with Nothing that, similar to how other iMessage-to-Android bridge services have worked before, “...it’s literally signing in on some Mac Mini in a server farm somewhere, and that Mac Mini will then do all of the routing for you to make this happen.”
From: https://www.theverge.com/2023/11/14/23960516/nothing-chats-i...
It seems to me like if they are doing the typical thing of using a bridge like https://github.com/mautrix/imessage then that isn't really E2EE, the messages are being stored, and could be accessed by Sunbird. I don't really see how their claims could be true. Does anyone know? Am I missing something?
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Any way to get iMessage on Nokia 2760? BlueBubbles Linux app for example?
If you're willing to dive deep into self-hosting, the open source chat protocol Matrix.org has support for an in-development iMessage bridge. Once you get it to work, there's a Matrix.org client on KaiOS devices called Chooj (sideloading guide) made by Farooq that you can use to access the chat.
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Solved: Fully automated transaction entry with iOS shortcuts. No manual entry or YNAB app required
iMessage bridge
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Beeper Changes iMessage
The disadvantage of not offering an API for iMessage is that there is no easy way to block clients. Apps like Bluebubbles have to work by being installed on an actual Mac and scraping messages from iMessage and Beeper uses a similar architecture[0]. Presumably they have a data centre full of actual macs (or VMs).
[0] https://github.com/mautrix/imessage
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iMessage on Android Without Any Apple Devices!
I have an old Mac Mini rotting on a shelf in my cupboard which is my bridge to the world of Apple shit. It primarily runs two bits of software: OpenHaystack, which I used to run my own object trackers over the Apple Find My network and Mautrix iMessage which I used to access iMessage via Matrix on my Android and Windows devices.
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Absolutely minimal hackintosh proxmox build?
I've switched from iPhone to a de-googled Android device, and am generally trying to extract myself from google and apple ecosystem lock-in. The last piece for me is trying to find a reasonable bridge for iMessages - but the baseline requirement is to have a Mac PC running 24x7 to act as a bridge for matrix or airmessage. Here's my question: the hardware and software requirements for iMessages are pretty minimal. MacOS Big Sur implemented a few messaging bits like inline replies which I'd like to keep, so that's my OS baseline. Has anyone managed to strip down a hackintosh hardware installation to absolutely minimal proxmox hardware demands (e.g. ram/cores)? If so, got a recommendation on an efficient build process?
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Gender and Age Differences in Love Styles and Attitudes
I know how crazy it is in America, but I think at leat the HN crowd wouldn't be participating in that madness.
If you are disparate enough, you can use a matrix bridge to get blue bubbles from anywhere
https://github.com/mautrix/imessage
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It’s time for Apple to fix texting
Yes, tulir works for beeper. But I think they stopped doing that iPhone thing, and if you use iOS there are less features available: https://github.com/mautrix/imessage/blob/master/ROADMAP.md
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Analyzing iMessage with SQL
I have an Android phone and if you're desperate you can buy an old Mac Mini and set up an iMessage bridge over Matrix (https://github.com/mautrix/imessage) or BlueBubbles to work around this. I do not recommend it though as it locks you into a facet of the Apple ecosystem.
- Why Pebble Failed
paper-research-privacy-matrix.org
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An actually private messaging self hosted server
I am trying to find something similar to discord that is actually private. Matrix phones home with a nasty amount of info: https://github.com/libremonde-org/paper-research-privacy-matrix.org/tree/master/part1, Snikket seems like a decent alternative, i just havent audited it for security purposes. Any suggestions? All im trying to maintain is the multiple-channels aspect of Discord, voice/video are optional, but preferred if possible
- MinesTRIX, A privacy focused social media based on matrix
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XMPP Group Chat & Introduction
I present to you a MUC I've created on the XMPP (also informally known as Jabber) network. I've put some thought into which network would be best fit and decided that, while IRC is an excellent way to chat, there is an apparent lack of mobile support and perhaps lacks the ability to choose a server of your choice. Furthermore, I've concluded for many years that Matrix isn't a good choice for multiple concerning reasons, the most impactful being the Matrix Foundation itself receiving large amounts of metadata and being overly centralized over the entirety of the network. Matrix also utilizes CloudFlare (a popular CDN service) which, according to W3Techs, provides services for 19.2% of all websites. I don't believe CloudFlare is a bad actor but they certainly can MITM any websites utilizing their free tier plan. One can easily check if a website is using the free tier SSL certificate by checking here. You can see that in the "subject" area, it shows the SSL domain name as sni.cloudflaressl.com. CloudFlare's free SSL operates by encrypting only the data sent from you to the CDN, leaving the data that is sent from the CDN back to Matrix.org unencrypted. This isn't necessarily problematic for the entirety of the network, however, it shows the Matrix Foundation has an apparent lack of privacy/security practices while advertising their project as a privacy-oriented chat solution. I won't ramble on too much about Matrix's suspected privacy issues, instead, I'll leave you these two write-ups to read for yourself, here and here.
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Why do people still recommend Matrix.
it's an entire paper written by a nonprofit dedicated to user privacy. it's also last updated 6 months ago? you can view all the commits here (https://github.com/libremonde-org/paper-research-privacy-matrix.org/commits/master)
- Communist Linux Discord server.
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SimpleX Chat v1 released - the most private and secure chat and application platform!
I found this to be an interesting read about Matrix. https://github.com/libremonde-org/paper-research-privacy-matrix.org/blob/master/part2/README.md
- XMPP: the secure communication protocol that respects privacy
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Element One – All of Matrix, WhatsApp, Signal and Telegram in One Place
Not sure what exactly they were referring to, but here are some of them: https://github.com/libremonde-org/paper-research-privacy-mat...
- What are some open source apps that are actually terrible for privacy?
- Which real time communication do you use and why?
What are some alternatives?
bluebubbles-server - Server for forwarding iMessages to clients within the BlueBubbles App ecosystem
simplex-chat - SimpleX - the first messaging network operating without user identifiers of any kind - 100% private by design! iOS, Android and desktop apps 📱!
matrix-docker-ansible-deploy - 🐳 Matrix (An open network for secure, decentralized communication) server setup using Ansible and Docker
matrix.to - A simple stateless privacy-protecting URL redirecting service for Matrix
macOS-Simple-KVM - Tools to set up a quick macOS VM in QEMU, accelerated by KVM.
weechat-matrix - Weechat Matrix protocol script written in python
simplexmq - ⚙️ SimpleXMQ - A reference implementation of the SimpleX Messaging Protocol for simplex queues over public networks.
signal - Multiplatform signal support for Haskell
RetroShare - RetroShare is a Free and Open Source cross-platform, Friend-2-Friend and secure decentralised communication platform.
signal - A Matrix-Signal puppeting bridge
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