hillside VS PseudoMakeMeKeyCapProfiles

Only two thumb keys seems like it could be a pain. I don't love trying to figure out the timing delays for tap vs hold. After a long search I settled on the Hillside 46 [1][2] which has 4 thumb keys and a splayed layout. Also choc spacing, as I didn't love the gaps between choc keycaps with mx spacing. Not sure why, as the macbook pro keyboard doesn't seem to give me any problems.

I like the all the case options and mods available to the ZSA keyboards. The biggest problem with building your own I feel is the cost of getting a nice, solid feeling case.

[1] https://github.com/mmccoyd/hillside/tree/main/hillside46

There are a few things that are close: * The Cantor/Piantor: more aggressive stagger and slightly changed thumb cluster. * The Swept Corne: essentially a big sweep. * The Hillside 46/48: This comes in many forms which are very similar to what you are looking for. Essentially an extra aggressive stagger (and perhaps splayed) Corne with a bigger thumb cluster.

I don’t have personal experience no. If you want to compare, here is a image of the key location: https://github.com/mmccoyd/hillside/blob/main/hillside46/doc/image/hill46_keys.png others exist for the other sizes in similar places. You can print this out, making sure you size so that the keys are properly spaced, and then compare that way

hillside

the first thing that pops into my head is something like the Hillside 52/56?

I'd recommend a Hillside. If you're not into the splay, there's the 48 and the 56. https://github.com/mmccoyd/hillside

Hillside ? https://github.com/mmccoyd/hillside

The spacing is minimal while not cutting stuff off the switches. The caps are a scuffed 3d print of the Philadelphia Minimalists, but Pseudoku's design is so good they still feel great.

I have 3d printed them from jlcpcb with mfj. Actually black mfj looks better. https://github.com/pseudoku/PseudoMakeMeKeyCapProfiles Also you can buy handmade ones from https://www.asymplex.xyz/category/des

Sorry but what exactly did you made here? I would asume you took the DES keycaps files from Pseudoku and get them printed somewhere?

Pseudoku has a wip profile [Philadelphia minimalist)[https://github.com/pseudoku/PseudoMakeMeKeyCapProfiles] which is minimum x/y spacing for choc switches. You may be able to mod the scad file to create min x /normal y on these or perhaps Chicago steno profile from the same repo

The Keycaps are DES from https://www.asymplex.xyz/product/des-alpha-sets They are also open source here: https://github.com/pseudoku/PseudoMakeMeKeyCapProfiles My favourite keycap profile. The ordered version feels amazing. The ones in the picture are 3D printed in MJF natural grey

- Key caps are XDA, except thumb keys which are custom designs that I 3d printed for max comfort (my models are on the github, but I think they were originally remixed from [here](https://github.com/pseudoku/PseudoMakeMeKeyCapProfiles))

Convex DES keys are pretty nice - you can print your own from Pesu's github files https://github.com/pseudoku/PseudoMakeMeKeyCapProfiles (resin prints will be the nicest outcome, keep in mind the stems will get brittle over time as they cure and you may end up breaking them if you remove them frequently)