guix VS nixpkgs

> So what we are missing now is a 500GB framework that can write the config file for the programming language that is writing a config file for the actual program I wish to use.

That exists since 1960. It's called LISP. The e.g. https://guix.gnu.org/ uses with great success, the Guile Scheme dialect of LISP, to be precise. And FYI the "framework" is:

  $ ls --human-readable --size $(readlink $(which guile))

> inventing a brand new purely functional language programming language.

ISTM that if you dislike that, then there's GUIX.

https://guix.gnu.org/

Very briefly, AFAICT, it's "Nix but using Scheme".

And just wait till you discover Arch Linux, Gentoo, Guix, or NixOS.

https://guix.gnu.org for example. It did load before an update but it doesn't anymore.

Is it? Seems to me it's used for some pretty cool stuff, heard of Guix?

I think a "competitor" to Lua would be Guile [1], but I am not sure if it gets close to Lua in terms of lightweightness... it was designed to be used in the GNU project, with similar objects as Lua: to be light, easily embeddable. It's a Scheme (Lisp) so maybe not for everyone's taste... its "coolest" use i know of is for configuring Guix [2] (the GNU version of Nix).

[1] https://www.gnu.org/software/guile/

[2] https://guix.gnu.org

No one said Guix yet, might be worth a look: https://guix.gnu.org/

GNU Guix! A fully functional package manager and distro heavily inspire by Nix. The primary difference between it and Nix being that it is almost entirely written and configured in GNU Guile, an implementation of Scheme (Lisp) and the official extension language of the GNU Project (originally intended to be for GNU what emacs lisp is for emacs).

You should perhaps utilize guix for your projects. It provides rather acceptable rust resp. crates support and in a perfectly reproducible build environment. But be aware, that it even tries to build even the rust compiler from source by going through all this nasty steps of its iterative bootstrap process. This can be a little bit complex and time-consuming, if you need an up-to-date version of rustc.

This will drop you into a shell where `tracexec` is installed.

[1]: https://github.com/NixOS/nixpkgs/pull/310158

I don't think so. The article is probably intended for the Nix community, so the author doesn't need to convince HN that something is going on. If as an outsider you are interested then you need to look into it yourself, the community has no obligation to make their internal conflicts legible to the outside world.

As an outsider myself, it certainly looks like something is going on as more than 20 Nixpkg maintainers left in a week: https://github.com/NixOS/nixpkgs/issues?q=label%3A%228.has%3...

https://github.com/NixOS/nixpkgs/commits?author=neon-sunset

I see two signers in the top 6 displayed on https://github.com/NixOS/nixpkgs/graphs/contributors

For a single file script, nix can make the package management quite easy: https://github.com/NixOS/nixpkgs/blob/master/doc/languages-f...

For example,

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Yes, Nix doesn't actually ensure that the builds are deterministic. In fact it works just fine if they aren't. There are packages in nixpkgs that aren't reproducible: https://github.com/NixOS/nixpkgs/issues?q=is%3Aopen+is%3Aiss...

I'm not familiar with Bazel, but Nix in it's current form wouldn't have solved this attack. First of all, the standard mkDerivation function calls the same configure; make; make install process that made this attack possible. Nixpkgs regularly pulls in external resources (fetchUrl and friends) that are equally vulnerable to a poisoned release tarball. Checkout the comment on the current xz entry in nixpkgs https://github.com/NixOS/nixpkgs/blob/master/pkgs/tools/comp...

NixOS uses a monorepo and I think everyone's love it.

I love being able to easily grep through all the packages source code and there's regularly PRs that harmonizes conventions across many packages.

Nixpkgs doesn't include the packaged software source code, so it's a lot more practical than what Debian is doing.

https://github.com/NixOS/nixpkgs