llama VS text-generation-webui

Compare llama vs text-generation-webui and see what are their differences.

llama

Inference code for LLaMA models (by gmorenz)

text-generation-webui

A Gradio web UI for Large Language Models. Supports transformers, GPTQ, AWQ, EXL2, llama.cpp (GGUF), Llama models. (by oobabooga)
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llama

Posts with mentions or reviews of llama. We have used some of these posts to build our list of alternatives and similar projects. The last one was on 2023-03-13.
  • Alpaca- An Instruct Tuned Llama 7B. Responses on par with txt-DaVinci-3. Demo up
    9 projects | news.ycombinator.com | 13 Mar 2023
    > All the magic of "7B LLaMA running on a potato" seems to involve lowering precision down to f16 and then further quantizing to int4.

    LLaMa weights are f16s to start out with, no lowering necessary to get to there.

    You can stream weights from RAM to the GPU pretty efficiently. If you have >= 32GB ram and >=2GB vram my code here should work for you: https://github.com/gmorenz/llama/tree/gpu_offload

    There's probably a cleaner version of it somewhere else. Really you should only need >= 16 GB ram, but the (meta provided) code to load the initial weights is completely unnecessarily making two copies of the weights in RAM simultaneously.

  • LLaMA-7B in Pure C++ with full Apple Silicon support
    19 projects | news.ycombinator.com | 10 Mar 2023
    My code for this is very much not high quality, but I have a CPU + GPU + SSD combination: https://github.com/gmorenz/llama/tree/ssd

    Usage instructions in the commit message: https://github.com/facebookresearch/llama/commit/5be06e56056...

    At least with my hardware this runs at "[size of model]/[speed of SSD reads]" tokens per second, which (up to some possible further memory reduction so you can run larger batches at once on the same GPU) is a good as it gets when you need to read the whole model from disk each token.

    At a 125GB and a 2MB/s read (largest model, what I get from my ssd) that's 60 seconds per token (1 day per 1440 words), which isn't exactly practical. Which is really the issue here, if you need to stream the model from an SSD because you don't have enough RAM, it is just a fundamentally slow process.

    You could probably optimize quite a bit for batch throughput if you're ok with the latency though.

  • Llama-CPU: Fork of Facebooks LLaMa model to run on CPU
    8 projects | news.ycombinator.com | 7 Mar 2023
    I don't know about this fork specifically, but in general yes absolutely.

    Even without enough ram, you can stream model weights from disk and run at [size of model/disk read speed] seconds per token.

    I'm doing that on a small GPU with this code, but it should be easy to get this working with the CPU as compute instead (and at least with my disk/CPU, I'm not even sure that it would run even slower, I think disk read would probably still be the bottleneck)

    https://github.com/gmorenz/llama/tree/ssd

text-generation-webui

Posts with mentions or reviews of text-generation-webui. We have used some of these posts to build our list of alternatives and similar projects. The last one was on 2024-04-01.
  • Ask HN: What is the current (Apr. 2024) gold standard of running an LLM locally?
    11 projects | news.ycombinator.com | 1 Apr 2024
    Some of the tools offer a path to doing tool use (fetching URLs and doing things with them) or RAG (searching your documents). I think Oobabooga https://github.com/oobabooga/text-generation-webui offers the latter through plugins.

    Our tool, https://github.com/transformerlab/transformerlab-app also supports the latter (document search) using local llms.

  • Ask HN: How to get started with local language models?
    6 projects | news.ycombinator.com | 17 Mar 2024
    You can use webui https://github.com/oobabooga/text-generation-webui

    Once you get a version up and running I make a copy before I update it as several times updates have broken my working version and caused headaches.

    a decent explanation of parameters outside of reading archive papers: https://github.com/oobabooga/text-generation-webui/wiki/03-%...

    a news ai website:

  • text-generation-webui VS LibreChat - a user suggested alternative
    2 projects | 29 Feb 2024
  • Show HN: I made an app to use local AI as daily driver
    31 projects | news.ycombinator.com | 27 Feb 2024
  • Ask HN: People who switched from GPT to their own models. How was it?
    3 projects | news.ycombinator.com | 26 Feb 2024
    The other answers are recommending paths which give you #1. less control and #2. projects with smaller eco-systems.

    If you want a truly general purpose front-end for LLMs, the only good solution right now is oobabooga: https://github.com/oobabooga/text-generation-webui

    All other alternatives have only small fractions of the features that oobabooga supports. All other alternatives only support a fraction of the LLM backends that oobabooga supports, etc.

  • AI Girlfriend Is a Data-Harvesting Horror Show
    1 project | news.ycombinator.com | 14 Feb 2024
    The example waifu in text-generation-webui is good enough for me.

    https://github.com/oobabooga/text-generation-webui/blob/main...

  • Nvidia's Chat with RTX is a promising AI chatbot that runs locally on your PC
    7 projects | news.ycombinator.com | 13 Feb 2024
    > Downloading text-generation-webui takes a minute, let's you use any model and get going.

    What you're missing here is you're already in this area deep enough to know what ooogoababagababa text-generation-webui is. Let's back out to the "average Windows desktop user" level. Assuming they even know how to find it:

    1) Go to https://github.com/oobabooga/text-generation-webui?tab=readm...

    2) See a bunch of instructions opening a terminal window and running random batch/powershell scripts. Powershell, etc will likely prompt you with a scary warning. Then you start wondering who ooobabagagagaba is...

    3) Assuming you get this far (many users won't even get to step 1) you're greeted with a web interface[0] FILLED to the brim with technical jargon and extremely overwhelming options just to get a model loaded, which is another mind warp because you get to try to select between a bunch of random models with no clear meaning and non-sensical/joke sounding names from someone called "TheBloke". Ok...

    Let's say you somehow braved this gauntlet and get this far now you get to chat with it. Ok, what about my local documents? text-generation-webui itself has nothing for that. Repeat this process over the 10 random open source projects from a bunch of names you've never heard of in an attempt to accomplish that.

    This is "I saw this thing from Nvidia explode all over media, twitter, youtube, etc. I downloaded it from Nvidia, double-clicked, pointed it at a folder with documents, and it works".

    That's the difference and it's very significant.

    [0] - https://raw.githubusercontent.com/oobabooga/screenshots/main...

  • Ask HN: What are your top 3 coolest software engineering tools?
    1 project | news.ycombinator.com | 6 Feb 2024
    Maybe a copout answer, but setting up a local LLM on my development machine has been invaluable. I use Deep Seek Coder 6.7 [0] and Oobabooga's UI [1]. It helps me solve simple problems and find bugs, while still leaving the larger architecture decisions to me.

    [0] https://huggingface.co/deepseek-ai/deepseek-coder-6.7b-instr...

    [1] https://github.com/oobabooga/text-generation-webui

  • Meta AI releases Code Llama 70B
    6 projects | news.ycombinator.com | 29 Jan 2024
    You can download it and run it with [this](https://github.com/oobabooga/text-generation-webui). There's an API mode that you could leverage from your VS Code extension.
  • Ollama Python and JavaScript Libraries
    17 projects | news.ycombinator.com | 24 Jan 2024
    Same question here. Ollama is fantastic as it makes it very easy to run models locally, But if you already have a lot of code that processes OpenAI API responses (with retry, streaming, async, caching etc), it would be nice to be able to simply switch the API client to Ollama, without having to have a whole other branch of code that handles Alama API responses. One way to do an easy switch is using the litellm library as a go-between but it’s not ideal (and I also recently found issues with their chat formatting for mistral models).

    For an OpenAI compatible API my current favorite method is to spin up models using oobabooga TGW. Your OpenAI API code then works seamlessly by simply switching out the api_base to the ooba endpoint. Regarding chat formatting, even ooba’s Mistral formatting has issues[1] so I am doing my own in Langroid using HuggingFace tokenizer.apply_chat_template [2]

    [1] https://github.com/oobabooga/text-generation-webui/issues/53...

    [2] https://github.com/langroid/langroid/blob/main/langroid/lang...

    Related question - I assume ollama auto detects and applies the right chat formatting template for a model?

What are some alternatives?

When comparing llama and text-generation-webui you can also consider the following projects:

llama.cpp - LLM inference in C/C++

KoboldAI

ChatGLM-6B - ChatGLM-6B: An Open Bilingual Dialogue Language Model | 开源双语对话语言模型

llama-mps - Experimental fork of Facebooks LLaMa model which runs it with GPU acceleration on Apple Silicon M1/M2

gpt4all - gpt4all: run open-source LLMs anywhere

stanford_alpaca - Code and documentation to train Stanford's Alpaca models, and generate the data.

TavernAI - Atmospheric adventure chat for AI language models (KoboldAI, NovelAI, Pygmalion, OpenAI chatgpt, gpt-4)

tinygrad - You like pytorch? You like micrograd? You love tinygrad! ❤️ [Moved to: https://github.com/tinygrad/tinygrad]

KoboldAI-Client

llama - Inference code for Llama models

ollama - Get up and running with Llama 3, Mistral, Gemma, and other large language models.