gateway-api VS envoy

# cilium/playbook.yml - name: Bootstrap the Kubernetes cluster hosts: localhost gather_facts: false become: true environment: KUBECONFIG: ~/.kube/config vars: helm_version: v3.14.4 kube_context: k3d-k3s-default tasks: - name: Install Kubernetes library ansible.builtin.pip: name: kubernetes<30 state: present - name: Install helm binary ansible.builtin.shell: cmd: "{{ lookup('ansible.builtin.url', 'https://git.io/get_helm.sh', split_lines=false) }}" creates: /usr/local/bin/helm environment: DESIRED_VERSION: "{{ helm_version }}" - name: Install Kubernetes gateway CRDs kubernetes.core.k8s: src: "{{ item }}" state: present context: "{{ kube_context }}" loop: - https://github.com/kubernetes-sigs/gateway-api/releases/download/v1.0.0/standard-install.yaml - https://github.com/kubernetes-sigs/gateway-api/releases/download/v1.0.0/experimental-install.yaml - name: Install cilium block: - name: Add cilium helm repository kubernetes.core.helm_repository: name: cilium repo_url: https://helm.cilium.io - name: Install cilium helm release kubernetes.core.helm: name: cilium chart_ref: cilium/cilium namespace: kube-system state: present chart_version: 1.15.x kube_context: "{{ kube_context }}" values: gatewayAPI: enabled: true kubeProxyReplacement: true encryption: enabled: true type: wireguard operator: replicas: 1

It has already been a couple of years since the Kubernetes Ingress was defined as a “frozen” feature while further development will be added to the Gateway API.

Kubernetes provides two APIs to achieve this, the Ingress API and the Gateway API.

With all that said, K8s is not really meant to function as an API gateway to arbitrary services. You should look into API gateways such as NGINX, Kong or others, service meshes as others have already pointed out, or have a look at the K8s Gateway API the SIG is currently working on. The last one is in the early stages of adoption, but it could provide you with a nice way to do an API Gateway right in K8s.

Maybe there's something in the new fangled gateways.

Keep an eye on the Gateway API GAMMA Initiative as it is currently evolving with the goal of streamlining how services meshes can implement the Gateway API and reduce some overlap.

The selling point for me was ability to configure it using Kubernetes CRD's and future support of the Gateway API (under development - <https://gateway-api.sigs.k8s.io/>).

Developers can version their API now within helm charts or even yaml templates held along the code in their repositories.

-- https://gateway-api.sigs.k8s.io

While you're learning about ingresses, also look into the k8s Gateway API, which is the next generation. https://gateway-api.sigs.k8s.io/

Apple also contributed[1] MPTCP support to Envoy Proxy.

[1]https://github.com/envoyproxy/envoy/pull/18780

After it finishes (it can take a few minutes), Docker-Compose automatically starts a cluster with two containers. One is an Envoy proxy (running on port 3000) that relays requests from outside the cluster to the other container (running on port 4000), which is our AR.IO gateway that will handle the requests.

Hi HN!

For the past few weeks we've been working on Proximal - a workflow engine that lets you quickly iterate on WebAssembly extensions for Envoy Proxy[0] (or other proxies) right on your local machine: https://github.com/apoxy-dev/proximal

This work is based on Proxy-WASM[1] extension ABI for Envoy (and other proxies like APISIX and Mosn[2]) which allows you to execute WebAssembly code on every API request a la Cloudflare Workers. As part of our wider effort at https://apoxy.dev to improve API glue code we built an experimentation / development platform and hope you will find it useful!

On the technical side this project packs Envoy itself, Envoy controller, REST API (for controlling the controller =)), React SPA, and Temporal server/worker (for orchestration) - all baked into a single Go binary. You can find more on architecture and limitations in the repository README[4].

This project is pretty early stage and we would appreciate community feedback!

Previous HN discussions on this topic:

* https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=36113542

* https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=22582276

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[0] https://www.envoyproxy.io/

[1] https://github.com/proxy-wasm/spec/blob/master/docs/WebAssem...

[2] https://apisix.apache.org/ https://mosn.io/

[3] https://github.com/apoxy-dev/proximal/blob/main/README.md#ar...

Hey HN,

We made an Envoy Proxy[0] playground so we could test out our Envoy configs directly in the browser. This is based on Julia's work with Nginx Playround[1] (we forked[2] that repo and added more Envoy to it). Check it out!

[0] - Envoy is a popular programmable proxy similar to Nginx or HAProxy that is popular with cloud-native setups: https://www.envoyproxy.io

Envoy is the proxy that does the heavy lifting. Istio is just a glorified configuration system. Even if you choose to use Istio you're still using Envoy.

You're spot-on about using iptables rules. There is an example here with a yaml configuration and some iptables commands: https://github.com/envoyproxy/envoy/blob/main/configs/origin...

You might be able to re-use some of that. It should be pretty easy to get metrics for outbound/inbound http requests, but I don't remember the exact yaml incantation.

I'm using the default RaspiOS Lite 64bits and as highlighted in this issue, the RaspiOS kernel does not support CONFIG_ARM64_VA_BITS_48, which makes cilium-envoy to fail building. As solution, I was told to use either Ubuntu as base OS or Traefik Ingress Controller, which is not configured in K3s.

I know envoy (https://www.envoyproxy.io/, https://www.envoyproxy.io/docs/envoy/latest/intro/arch_overview/security/jwt_authn_filter) can do this natively, I'm sure you could probably build something with nginx and its Lua scripting, not sure about traefik and caddy but I dont think they support that.

Envoy is a cloud native opensource proxy server. The Envoy proxy offers a variety of http filters to handle incoming requests.

Istio: By far the most popular service mesh. It is built on top of Envoy proxy, which many service meshes use.