Folly VS t-digest

Compare Folly vs t-digest and see what are their differences.

Folly

An open-source C++ library developed and used at Facebook. (by facebook)

t-digest

A new data structure for accurate on-line accumulation of rank-based statistics such as quantiles and trimmed means (by tdunning)
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9.8 3.3
3 days ago 4 months ago
C++ Java
Apache License 2.0 Apache License 2.0
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Folly

Posts with mentions or reviews of Folly. We have used some of these posts to build our list of alternatives and similar projects. The last one was on 2024-03-29.
  • Ask HN: How bad is the xz hack?
    1 project | news.ycombinator.com | 31 Mar 2024
    https://github.com/facebook/folly/commit/b1391e1c57be71c1e2a...
  • Backdoor in upstream xz/liblzma leading to SSH server compromise
    49 projects | news.ycombinator.com | 29 Mar 2024
    https://github.com/facebook/folly/pull/2153
  • A lock-free ring-buffer with contiguous reservations (2019)
    9 projects | news.ycombinator.com | 29 Feb 2024
    To set a HP on Linux, Folly just does a relaxed load of the src pointer, release store of the HP, compiler-only barrier, and acquire load. (This prevents the compiler from reordering the 2nd load before the store, right? But to my understanding does not prevent a hypothetical CPU reordering of the 2nd load before the store, which seems potentially problematic!)

    Then on the GC/reclaim side of things, after protected object pointers are stored, it does a more expensive barrier[0] before acquire-loading the HPs.

    I'll admit, I am not confident I understand why this works. I mean, even on x86, loads can be reordered before earlier program-order stores. So it seems like the 2nd check on the protection side could be ineffective. (The non-Linux portable version just uses an atomic_thread_fence SeqCst on both sides, which seems more obviously correct.) And if they don't need the 2nd load on Linux, I'm unclear on why they do it.

    [0]: https://github.com/facebook/folly/blob/main/folly/synchroniz...

    (This uses either mprotect to force a TLB flush in process-relevant CPUs, or the newer Linux membarrier syscall if available.)

  • Appending to an std:string character-by-character: how does the capacity grow?
    2 projects | news.ycombinator.com | 26 Oct 2023
    folly provides functions to resize std::string & std::vector without initialization [0].

    [0] https://github.com/facebook/folly/blob/3c8829785e3ce86cb821c...

  • Can anyone explain feedback of a HFT firm regarding implementation of SPSC lock-free ring-buffer queue?
    1 project | /r/highfreqtrading | 12 Jul 2023
    My implementation was quite similar to Boost's spsc_queue and Facebook's folly/ProducerConsumerQueue.h.
  • A Compressed Indexable Bitset
    6 projects | news.ycombinator.com | 1 Jul 2023
    > How is that relevant?

    Roaring bitmaps and similar data structures get their speed from decoding together consecutive groups of elements, so if you do sequential decoding or decode a large fraction of the list you get excellent performance.

    EF instead excels at random skipping, so if you visit a small fraction of the list you generally get better performance. This is why it works so well for inverted indexes, as generally the queries are very selective (otherwise why do you need an index?) and if you have good intersection algorithms you can skip a large fraction of documents.

    I didn't follow the rest of your comment, select is what EF is good at, every other data structure needs a lot more scanning once you land on the right chunk. With BMI2 you can also use the PDEP instruction to accelerate the final select on a 64-bit block: https://github.com/facebook/folly/blob/main/folly/experiment...

  • Defer for Shell
    1 project | news.ycombinator.com | 20 Jun 2023
    C++ with folly's SCOPE_EXIT {} construct:

    https://github.com/facebook/folly/blob/main/folly/ScopeGuard...

  • Is there any facebook/folly community for discussion and Q&A?
    1 project | /r/cpp | 19 Jun 2023
    Seems like github issues taking a long time to get any response: https://github.com/facebook/folly
  • How a Single Line of Code Made a 24-Core Server Slower Than a Laptop
    4 projects | news.ycombinator.com | 17 Jun 2023
    Can't speak for abseil and tbb, but in folly there are a few solutions for the common problem of sharing state between a writer that updates it very infrequently and concurrent readers that read it very frequently (typical use case is configs).

    The most performant solutions are RCU (https://github.com/facebook/folly/blob/main/folly/synchroniz...) and hazard pointers (https://github.com/facebook/folly/blob/main/folly/synchroniz...), but they're not quite as easy to use as a shared_ptr [1].

    Then there is simil-shared_ptr implemented with thread-local counters (https://github.com/facebook/folly/blob/main/folly/experiment...).

    If you absolutely need a std::shared_ptr (which can be the case if you're working with pre-existing interfaces) there is CoreCachedSharedPtr (https://github.com/facebook/folly/blob/main/folly/concurrenc...), which uses an aliasing trick to transparently maintain per-core reference counts, and scales linearly, but it works only when acquiring the shared_ptr, any subsequent copies of that would still cause contention if passed around in threads.

    [1] Google has a proposal to make a smart pointer based on RCU/hazptr, but I'm not a fan of it because generally RCU/hazptr guards need to be released in the same thread that acquired them, and hiding them in a freely movable object looks like a recipe for disaster to me, especially if paired with coroutines https://www.open-std.org/jtc1/sc22/wg21/docs/papers/2020/p05...

  • Ask HN: What are some of the most elegant codebases in your favorite language?
    37 projects | news.ycombinator.com | 17 Jun 2023
    Not sure if it's still the case but about 6 years ago Facebook's folly C++ library was something I'd point to for my junior engineers to get a sense of "good" C++ https://github.com/facebook/folly

t-digest

Posts with mentions or reviews of t-digest. We have used some of these posts to build our list of alternatives and similar projects. The last one was on 2022-07-21.
  • Ask HN: How do you deal with information and internet addiction?
    1 project | news.ycombinator.com | 8 Feb 2023
    > I get a lot of benefit from this information but somehow it feels shallow.

    I take a longer view to this. For example, a few years ago I read about an algorithm to calculate percentiles in real time. [0]

    It literally just came up at work today. I haven't used that information but maybe two times since I read it, but it was super relevant today and saved my team potential weeks of development.

    So maybe it's not so shallow.

    But to your actual question, I have a similar problem. The best I can say is that deadlines help. I usually put down the HN and Youtube when I have a deadline coming up. And not just at work. I make sure my hobbies have deadlines too.

    I tell people when I think something will be done, so they start bugging me about it when it doesn't get done, so that I have a "deadline". Also one of my hobbies is pixel light shows for holidays, which come with excellent natural deadlines -- it has to be done by the holiday or it's useless.

    So either find an "accountability buddy" who will hold you to your self imposed deadlines, or find a hobby that has natural deadlines, like certain calendar dates, or annual conventions or contests that you need to be done by.

    [0] https://github.com/tdunning/t-digest

  • Ask HN: What are some 'cool' but obscure data structures you know about?
    54 projects | news.ycombinator.com | 21 Jul 2022
    I am enamored by data structures in the sketch/summary/probabilistic family: t-digest[1], q-digest[2], count-min sketch[3], matrix-sketch[4], graph-sketch[5][6], Misra-Gries sketch[7], top-k/spacesaving sketch[8], &c.

    What I like about them is that they give me a set of engineering tradeoffs that I typically don't have access to: accuracy-speed[9] or accuracy-space. There have been too many times that I've had to say, "I wish I could do this, but it would take too much time/space to compute." Most of these problems still work even if the accuracy is not 100%. And furthermore, many (if not all of these) can tune accuracy to by parameter adjustment anyways. They tend to have favorable combinatorial properties ie: they form monoids or semigroups under merge operations. In short, a property of data structures that gave me the ability to solve problems I couldn't before.

    I hope they are as useful or intriguing to you as they are to me.

    1. https://github.com/tdunning/t-digest

    2. https://pdsa.readthedocs.io/en/latest/rank/qdigest.html

    3. https://florian.github.io/count-min-sketch/

    4. https://www.cs.yale.edu/homes/el327/papers/simpleMatrixSketc...

    5. https://www.juanlopes.net/poly18/poly18-juan-lopes.pdf

    6. https://courses.engr.illinois.edu/cs498abd/fa2020/slides/20-...

    7. https://people.csail.mit.edu/rrw/6.045-2017/encalgs-mg.pdf

    8. https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/abs/pii/S00200...

    9. It may better be described as error-speed and error-space, but I've avoided the term error because the term for programming audiences typically evokes the idea of logic errors and what I mean is statistical error.

  • Monarch: Google’s Planet-Scale In-Memory Time Series Database
    4 projects | news.ycombinator.com | 14 May 2022
    Ah, I misunderstood what you meant. If you are reporting static buckets I get how that is better than what folks typically do but how do you know the buckets a priori? Others back their histograms with things like https://github.com/tdunning/t-digest. It is pretty powerful as the buckets are dynamic based on the data and histograms can be added together.
  • [Q] Estimator for pop median
    1 project | /r/statistics | 16 Sep 2021
    Yes, but if you need to estimate median on the fly (e.g., over a stream of data) or in parallel there are better ways.
  • How percentile approximation works (and why it's more useful than averages)
    8 projects | news.ycombinator.com | 14 Sep 2021
    There are some newer data structures that take this to the next level such as T-Digest[1], which remains extremely accurate even when determining percentiles at the very tail end (like 99.999%)

    [1]: https://arxiv.org/pdf/1902.04023.pdf / https://github.com/tdunning/t-digest

  • Reducing fireflies in path tracing
    1 project | /r/GraphicsProgramming | 3 Aug 2021
    [2] https://github.com/tdunning/t-digest
  • Reliable, Scalable, and Maintainable Applications
    1 project | dev.to | 8 Apr 2021
    T-Digest
  • Show HN: Fast Rolling Quantiles for Python
    2 projects | news.ycombinator.com | 1 Mar 2021
    This is pretty cool. The title would be a bit more descriptive if it were “Fast Rolling Quantile Filters for Python”, since the high-pass/low-pass filter functionality seems to be the focus.

    The README mentions it uses binary heaps - if you’re willing to accept some (bounded) approximation, then it should be possible to reduce memory usage and somewhat reduce runtime by using a sketching data structure like Dunning’s t-digest: https://github.com/tdunning/t-digest/blob/main/docs/t-digest....

    There is an open source Python implementation, although I haven’t used it and can’t vouch for its quality: https://github.com/CamDavidsonPilon/tdigest

What are some alternatives?

When comparing Folly and t-digest you can also consider the following projects:

abseil-cpp - Abseil Common Libraries (C++)

EvoTrees.jl - Boosted trees in Julia

Boost - Super-project for modularized Boost

timescale-analytics - Extension for more hyperfunctions, fully compatible with TimescaleDB and PostgreSQL 📈

Seastar - High performance server-side application framework

tdigest - t-Digest data structure in Python. Useful for percentiles and quantiles, including distributed enviroments like PySpark

parallel-hashmap - A family of header-only, very fast and memory-friendly hashmap and btree containers.

PSI - Private Set Intersection Cardinality protocol based on ECDH and Bloom Filters

EASTL - Obsolete repo, please go to: https://github.com/electronicarts/EASTL

minisketch - Minisketch: an optimized library for BCH-based set reconciliation

OpenFrameworks - openFrameworks is a community-developed cross platform toolkit for creative coding in C++.

tdigest - PostgreSQL extension for estimating percentiles using t-digest