far2l VS winget-pkgs

FAR Manager 2

I still use Total Commander on my Android phones/tablets.

For MacOS, the closest ones are:

- https://apps.apple.com/us/app/commander-one-file-manager/id1...

- https://github.com/elfmz/far2l

Do you need to self compile? The Linux port (https://github.com/elfmz/far2l) ironically only provides macOS releases... Thank you!

I would then mention far2l project that aims to bring Far Manager to -nix systems: https://github.com/elfmz/far2l. It is cross-platform and does have a great built-in editor and viewer

Oh, I didn't check recently - could you share the link about political beliefs. From what I know there are quite many developers right know and it worked flawlessly at least on openSUSE Tumbleweed https://github.com/elfmz/far2l

Abstract:

Marta is the greatest file manager for MacOS, by light years.

Longer version:

Before switching away from Windows, I was a long-time Far Manager [1] user. It is a great, great program far better than various graphical commanders. It had a set of killer features:

1. Quick directories, press ctrl-1 and you are there

2. No graphical cruft. All these tiny boxes and panels with buttons you see everywhere on the likes of Total commander, Double commander, etc, they are gone, none

3. It is text mode. Hard to spoil a properly done text mode with bad fonts, tiny fonts, etc - especially if you can set them up yourself

4. Folder operations. Open same folder in another panel, compare panels, selecting files, masks, regex, all done, all great

5. Great archive support. Open archive from folder, copy from archive, all done all great

6. Very, very capable build-in editor with code highlighting, and hex viewer/editor(!). I could edit savegames right from a file manager, imagine that?!

I could go on, but nothing I have ever tried on GNU/Linux and MacOS came even close to it. I even tried to use ports of Far [2], but it is... well, far from smoothly supporting either platform.

So I was really unhappy when using MacOS (there are few apps I hate as much as native Finder) until I've found Marta [3] recently. And Marta is truly great file manager for MacOS that even improves on Far in a lot of ways. Its author Yan Zhulanow is an extremely great developer who has put a lot of thought into the application, and it does everything that Far does (maybe sans a built-in editor), and it improves on it in many ways. Try it out.

It is blazing fast, it is very well thought through from top to bottom, and it is probably one of the few perfect apps that leave you stunned after discovering it. It does have a relatively high learning curve to learn how to configure it and to learn all the hotkeys, but the result is very much worth it.

[1]: https://www.farmanager.com/

[2]: https://github.com/elfmz/far2l

[3]: https://marta.sh

Not quite. It's still in beta though

7.0 is now available: https://github.com/microsoft/winget-pkgs/pull/147886

I researched this for a WinGet thing: https://github.com/microsoft/winget-pkgs/pull/110618

Ah, reminds me of that time I requested a .editorconfig file in a Microsoft repo: https://github.com/microsoft/winget-pkgs/issues/329

Take dropbox as an example. This is what the yaml manifest looks like for that if you install it through winget. It literally has a hardcoded link to an .exe installer hosted by dropbox and then just set the flags to silent. I am not spreading misinformation, you are.

It's not quite the same though, as there are different considerations when using a repository of things a unified group has decided should be included and built (or slightly modified existing) packages for and a repo where anyone can submit a package that will go through some level of vetting. In the end I still believe most this discussion is really about individuals and how much trust they apply towards different groups and sources and is not really about Linux or Windows in particular as much.

1: https://github.com/microsoft/winget-pkgs

I never used winget, but probably: - https://github.com/microsoft/winget-pkgs/issues/107858 - https://github.com/Genymobile/scrcpy/issues/4027

It's probably not on the Store, winget pulls from both the Store and a community collection of manifests on GitHub: https://github.com/microsoft/winget-pkgs

I think that's part of the problem, if you don't have that package manager to bootstrap your signature key ring, DNS is your next best bootstrap. It is, of course, a terrible bootstrap for trust, but it is one so many users on Windows have been relying on for such a long time.

For power users on any modern Windows 10/Windows 11 there is at least WinGet now. Its manifests repo is becoming a very interesting (open) source of truth for common Windows applications. Admittedly, it in most cases doesn't seem to be checking specific code signatures in most cases either, but at least includes SHA checksums.

For instance, 7zip's manifests: https://github.com/microsoft/winget-pkgs/tree/master/manifes...

It's too bad there's still not a great option for "average user that doesn't know/trust how to use a CLI", given how sadly polluted the Microsoft Store can be for many common, especially Open Source, applications. For direct instance, because winget kindly includes Microsoft Store results when searching, there is a "7zip 22" in the Microsoft Store that costs some amount of money (winget details say "PaidUnknownPrice" for the pricing information; I'm on a corporate machine right now with the actual Store access locked so can't search in the actual Store right now) and the Publisher is listed as RepackagerExpress.com. (That website currently doesn't go anywhere, giving it a spot check.)

Having seen this, I may boot up my personal machine and try to report this specific Store listing for violating the Store's Open Source policies, though I'm unsure if such whackamole is all that useful. (Seems like it might be a useful winget feature request for it to provide Store Report URLs.)

For example, see that Firefox has /S here.