enso VS Eve

> At least I have yet to see one that is actually useful in the sense of a generic (or even a single-purpose-built) language

Yeah as said, https://github.com/enso-org/enso seems to be a general purpose functional programming language with visual editor, but otherwise I haven't really seen any no-code solutions worth their salt. I'm not particularly a fan of enso either, but it's the best I've seen.

Although it's not quite the same, I do like what Enso[0] is bringing to the table, especially the 1:1 visual node/language interop. Whether this is generalisable to a fully decoupled interface remains to be seen, but there's definitely potential.

[0]: https://enso.org/

I think Enso is already taken by a YC company [0]. Could get confusing.

[0] https://enso.org

COMPANY: Enso Inc. TYPE: Full time LOCATION: Europe and United States of America – fully distributed company REMOTE: Only remote VISA: No VISA required DESCRIPTION: Hi, we are Enso (enso.org, Y Combinator S21)! We are looking for an amazing Cloud engineer to join our core team. We are a remote first company, working in Europe and the USA.

Friends of mine are developing Enso (https://enso.org/), an interactive programming language with dual visual and textual representations.

Even well before Bret Victor's time, there were tools for visual programming. I have been using LabView to maintain data processing in an optical laboratory.

> I'm convinced this entire space should be visual.

At my last 2 jobs I spent entirely too much time debugging Matillion jobs, which are visual. I have my doubts that it’s the panacea that it appears to be.

That said, you may find Enso particularly interesting: https://github.com/enso-org/enso

There's also https://github.com/mech-lang/mech which is a sort of descendant of Eve https://witheve.com/ . That too seems to be getting close to hiatus. It's a bit of a shame since it seems like quite a nice paradigm for some stuff like GUIs, interactive stuff, and discrete event simulation, but I suppose the paradigm is both a bit obscure and different enough from everything else that it becomes a "boil the ocean" situation where one or a few people try and hack away but aren't really able to get much traction and eventually tired themselves out.

Interesting perspective. It reminds me of Eve [1], which was all the rage over here a few years ago.

[1] https://witheve.com/

You can read more about it here: http://witheve.com

From what I can tell, this language builds on the learnings of Eve[1] without investor money. Their active repository seems to be on GitLab[2] despite the links on the landing and in the README. It doesn't seem to have a lot of contributors or even people observing it, so I thought the HN crowd might want to look into this.

[1] https://github.com/witheve/Eve

[2] https://gitlab.com/mech-lang/mech

I helped with the Eve language, which was an attempt down this path (https://witheve.com)

After that project ended I started working on my own attempt (https://GitHub.com/mech-lang/mech).

Someone else posted a link to futureofcoding.org, which is a community that works on these types of projects. You can find a lot more there.

Also sounds like http://witheve.com

Some langs have been made more or less like this (ex: http://witheve.com).

Do you mean this Eve? I'm trying to figure out what you meant :)

http://witheve.com/