element-meta VS sydent

https://github.com/element-hq/element-meta/issues/339#issuec... is another facet, too.

It's quite disappointing that there's huge ongoing work around reinventing clients from scratch where the basic functionality of not ringing all my devices while I'm using only one of them [1] is still not there (bug open for years), despite it being a pretty simple fix.

[1] https://github.com/vector-im/element-meta/issues/360

Basically element / matrix was supposed to be a replacement for Discord but it's missing a lot of the polish. I've been hosting an instance for a year and I haven't really seen any notable improvements. There's no GIF keyboard after almost 8 years, large rooms take forever to load history, you can't play videos directly inside of a link preview, read receipts don't always work, etc. Basically just open source jank. Overall though I really appreciate the fact that it's entirely self contained, open source and the federation part is nice.

Scalar (the integration manager) is not open source [1] (though there was some effort to reverse-engineer its protocol [2]); and some of their anti-abuse scripts aren't public [3]

[1] https://github.com/vector-im/element-meta/issues/260

[2] https://github.com/turt2live/matrix-dimension/blob/master/do...

[3] https://github.com/matrix-org/matrix.org/issues/557

Since I didn't hear much here I added it to the GitHub ideas. https://github.com/vector-im/element-meta/discussions/984

GitHub Discussions can also be a great place for support as long as these are regularly monitored. Another option along the same lines is Discourse and the Open Source Matrix which is used by quite a few Open Source and community-based projects.

Tangential: the article notes that Telegram is an “encrypted messaging app”. While this is technically true, it's worth keeping in mind that it's not end-to-end encrypted, so it's less secure in that regard than, say, Signal or even WhatsApp. Telegram does have opt-in end-to-end encrypted one-on-one chats, but those are very inconvenient to use.

For a properly encrypted chat app, including group chats (opt-in), try Matrix instead: https://matrix.org/

I'd love something like the Matrix [0] data model (JSON messages aggregated in an eventually-consistent chatroom CRDT) transmitted over something like simplex for metadata resistance.

[0] https://matrix.org

Trillian mod here. There's this new thing called Beeper, works on matrix.org. It's not as the good old times, but I'm currently using whatsapp, FB messenger, discord, telegram, signal, imessage and a few more. It's not Cerulean experience, but it's... slowly improving.

I'm trying to change my account provider from "matrix.org" to whatever Element One needs, and for the life of me I just don't understand what values I have to put where to be able to log in. I tried `element.io`, which takes me to sso.element.io but this doesn't seem like the right thing (no credentials work as I expect.