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dinit
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Chimera Linux
The author has a high-level overview doc here: https://github.com/davmac314/dinit/blob/master/doc/COMPARISO...
Now, of course, with service management the devil is in the details, so before you use something as system-wide init, I find it useful to ask yourself: How do they restart services? Do they give up at some point? How do they notify administrators of failures? Do they detect crashloops? How configurable is the logger? What CLIs are there to debug the state of the system (which service was first to fail, where is its definition)? How to make ephemeral or parametrised services? How to add pre-start, post-start, pre-stop, post-stop hooks? Can you use environment variables in your commands, and where do they come from?
I don't think you can find answers to some of these questions in docs. Once you do learn the answers, they may be disappointing - I indeed found myself quite disappointed in systemd after having to debug many failed-to-boot machines. With s6, I never run it, but there are few choices that raise eyebrows, e.g. the restart delay is hardcoded in source code to be 1 second. With dinit, I have yet to finish reading all its manpages, but at least timeout and restart policies are configurable.
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Show HN: Dinit – specialized init for Docker containers
Not to be confused with https://github.com/davmac314/dinit
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are there any good reasons for me to avoid systemd
Still, I applaud efforts like s6 and Dinit as competition is a good thing in general. I hope they'll continue to be improved upon until they've become viable alternatives to systemd for most users.
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Gentoo 66 init or dinit
You can download dinit from github https://github.com/davmac314/dinit. (also read everything about it) Do a simple make && make install which should install it to /sbin/dinit No need to remove systemd or openrc. /sbin/init should be symlinked to whatever init system you use. Read the instructions on dinits page. All the services go into /etc/dinit.d. And you can "dinitctl enable servicename" to enable it. I threw the services I have on my system up at https://gitlab.com/fictitiousexistence-public/dinit-gentoo/ You can copy them and enable / disable whatever you need. Most services I jacked from artix since they have a supported instance of dinit.
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A discussion about the Ultimate Linux Desktop
It got mass-adopted while being imperfect, so that's to be expected. Thankfully its inception and the criticism that followed have paved the way for the likes of dinit and s6.
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Which do you use systemd or openrc? Why do you use what you use?
this page by Davin McCall, creator of dinit.
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Run a script when connection is established and ready?
I use dinit do manage services on my home server. One of them is Caddy, that shares TLS/SSL cert state with my remote server by using Redis on said remote server. However, since this means that I need to have established a remote connection first before starting Caddy, I would like to know of a method to check if tailscale has in fact finished connecting.
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Fastest way to boot Void Linux?
I've used a ton of improvements but I know this community knows a lot more about some parts than me. So here I come. I'm currently using efibootmgr to create an efistub to bypass grub. Using base-minimal with ncurses so terminal apps work. Also I use this in my /etc/dracut.conf.d/local.conf: hostonly="yes" omit_dracutmodules=" network plymouth " And that works perfectly. Don't know exactly what network or plymouth are for but they are not strictly required. Also I use dinit: void_dinit, dinit. This works perfectly fine and works like expected after a little troubleshooting. Also for making dinit about 2x faster is swapping coreutils to sbase. I only use ls from gnu coreutils which is something I may want to switch but I haven't come to finding a good alternative to ls that has colors (exa exists but is 11x as big) Things that I could think of that could improve stuff are: kernel, maybe initramfs. Maybe something else I've looked over. What is all made by GNU anyway? I may have forgot something Void Linux uses.
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What do you guys think about this?
systemd: Yes; it's awaiting its "PipeWire". Thankfully, the likes of s6 and dinit are very promising. Though I can actually appreciate that systemd is addressed. As ultimately it helps in raising awareness that will benefit whatever software will replace it eventually.
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The (GNU/)Linux rabbit hole has been a negative influence on my mental state
Arguably this is less troublesome to solve compared to the other concerns. As we're inevitably waiting for the system supervision suite that will be to systemd what PipeWire has been to PulseAudio. I'm very optimistic about this as both s6 and Dinit are shaping up lovely.
ublue
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The many issues plaguing Nix
I myself use Fedora Silverblue with a https://ublue.it/ -based custom image, and I use home-manager for shell configuration. Sure, my GNOME layout isn't declarative, but basically everything else is. Pair that with one of the best NVIDIA driver experiences and the strong feeling of stability, it's better than most other Linuxes rn.
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Thoughts on silver blue kinoite ?
Take a look at ublue.it
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Neglected Spin Of Fedora (KDE)
This is a fundamental misunderstanding of immutable systems. You still have full control over what’s on your computer, you just don’t exercise that control by making irreversible changes to your core system while it’s running. You can use e.g. rpm-ostree, or even better, build a custom image with exactly the changes you want that updates and ships directly to your computer whenever you want it to.
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How to install fedora Sway spin
Have you considered the Sericea(Sway) immutable Fedora spin at ublue.it?
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Cannot enable rpmfusion for rpm-ostree: Missing metadata key rpmostree.sepolicy
Have you considered the nvidia images at ublue.it? They make silverblue and nvidia easy.
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Deepin Not Showing (F38)
Try the ublue images, they have one for deepin. It’s a variant on fedoras immutable silverblue image, you could either use their iso on http://ublue.it or install silverblue and rebase to the deepin image via:
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Project to make a custom linux desktop experience that benefits from group knowledge and experience (Part 1)
ublue.it
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Silverblue users: why?
This is indeed a blind spot. Thanks for pointing that out! Silverblue -to my knowledge- doesn't do a lot to address this. Though, 3rd-party tools like Home Manager and the suite of applications developed by the folks over at uBlue might be able to limit this to a minimum. Though I'm not sure if it surpasses NixOS in this regard; for the uninitiated. Though, to my knowledge, this requires special attention and depends on the specifics of the NixOS system in question.
- Is there a plan for an immutable version of POP OS?
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How do I install a downloaded appimage (in localhost downloads) within a toolbox? Fedora Silverblue 38
This hasn't been for nought as even openSUSE's Aeon (and all their immutable offerings) ship Distrobox instead. Vanilla OS also ships Distrobox instead of Toolbx. Heck, even the folks over on uBlue\1]) always mention Toolbx with Distrobox and vice versa. And it wouldn't surprise me if most of them prefer to use Distrobox instead.
What are some alternatives?
s6 - The s6 supervision suite.
silverblue-update - Daily Fedora Silverblue Update
init - KISS Linux - Init Framework
Fedora-37-Post-Install-Guide - Things to do after installing Fedora 38 [Moved to: https://github.com/devangshekhawat/Fedora-38-Post-Install-Guide]
InitKit - Neo-InitWare is a modular, cross-platform reimplementation of the systemd init system. It is experimental.
distrobox - Use any linux distribution inside your terminal. Enable both backward and forward compatibility with software and freedom to use whatever distribution you’re more comfortable with. Mirror available at: https://gitlab.com/89luca89/distrobox
smletsexchangeconnector - SMLets PowerShell based Exchange Connector for controlling Microsoft System Center Service Manager 2016+
nix - Nix, the purely functional package manager
minibase - small static userspace tools for Linux
ashlinux - An immutable Arch based distribution utilizing btrfs snapshots
runit_sv_addons - Three short add-on scripts for runit "sv"
main - OCI base images of Fedora with batteries included