dfdx VS candle

I keep checking the progress on dfdx for this reason. It does what I (and, I assume from context, you) want: Provides static checking of tensor shapes. Which is fantastic. Not quite as much inference as I'd like but I love getting compile-time errors that I forgot to transpose before a matmul.

It depends on the generic_const_exprs feature which is still, to quote, "highly experimental":

https://github.com/rust-lang/rust/issues/76560

Definitely not for production use, but it gives a flavor for where things can head in the medium term, and it's .. it's nice. You could imagine future type support allowing even more inference for some intermediate shapes, of course, but even what it has now is really nice. Like this cute little convnet example:

https://github.com/coreylowman/dfdx/blob/main/examples/night...

And for transformers, it's really early days for dfdx, but it's a library that aims to sit basically at the Pytorch level of abstraction, that the difference is it's not just coded in Rust, but it follows the Rust-y/functional-y philosophy of "if it compiles it runs".

Wow that is super interesting. I actually tried to use GATs at first to be generic over shapes, but I couldn't do it, I'm sure it would be possible in the future though. There is this library dfdx that does something similar to what you mentioned, but it feels a little clumsy to me.

Awesome, I added an issue here https://github.com/coreylowman/dfdx/issues/597. We can discuss more there! The first step will just be adding the device and implementing tensor creation methods for it.

The next release of dfdx includes a CUDA device and implements many ops. The same dev created a new crate, cudarc, for a wrapper around CUDA toolkit.

A question I have is: what are the philosophical/design differences with dfdx? As someone who's played around with dfdx and only skimmed the README of burn, it seems like dfdx leans into Rust's type system/type inference for compile time checking of as much as is possible to check at compile time. I wonder if you've gotten a chance to look at dfdx and would like to outline what you think the differences are. Thanks!

The Candle framework from Hugging Face became our foundation. Unlike PyTorch, Candle runs inference without Python overhead. Combined with the ONNX Runtime bindings for Rust, we could execute our Gemma-3 embedding model directly on CPU with SIMD optimisations that Python simply cannot match.

Was getting annoyed having to work out which video call platform to use for intro meetings, so I’m currently working on https://simplevc.blazingbanana.com.

It’s a private, simple browser video chat. No accounts. You can create a new chat or join via link/code. It also has in browser transcription using Whisper (using https://github.com/huggingface/candle/).

Currently fighting getting background blur to work smoothly on Chrome on Android, which is proving surprisingly harder than getting browser transcription working...

Also still working on small updates to Whistle, my completely free offline transcription app, available on Android, macOS, Windows and Linux (with CUDA builds for Windows/Linux) - https://blazingbanana.com/work/whistle

If you need WASM, I think Candle is your current best bet: https://github.com/huggingface/candle

[package] name = "rust-phi3" version = "0.1.0" edition = "2021" [dependencies] anyhow = "1.0" tokenizers = "0.19.1" clap = { version = "4.4", features = ["derive"] } candle-core = { git = "https://github.com/huggingface/candle.git", branch = "main" } candle-transformers = { git = "https://github.com/huggingface/candle.git", branch = "main" } candle-nn = { git = "https://github.com/huggingface/candle.git", branch = "main" }

The Rust ML ecosystem is still young. There are great projects like burn and candle, but there's room for more exploration and different approaches. Even if CorrosiveNet never becomes production-ready, understanding how ML frameworks work under the hood is valuable.

I intend to grow this into an open-source project because deep inside, this is ideally how I would like ComfyUI to be. There's still a long journey ahead for building all the custom nodes, which is especially challenging given that the majority of code for AI workflows is written in Python. However, with my hands-on experience with Candle and Burn libraries, I may be able to get pretty close!

You are correct. This project is "on the CPU", so it will not utilize your GPU for computation. If you would like to try out a Rust framework that does support GPUs, [Candle](https://github.com/huggingface/candle/tree/main) may be worth exploring

While looking into how to create text embeddings quickly and directly, we discovered a few helpful tools that allowed us to achieve our goal. Consequently, we created an easy-to-use PHP extension that can generate text embeddings. This extension lets you pick any model from Sentence Transformers on HuggingFace. It is built on the CandleML framework, which is written in Rust and is a part of the well-known HuggingFace ecosystem. The PHP extension itself is also crafted in Rust using the php-ext-rs library. This approach ensures the extension runs fast while still being easy to develop.