datadm VS sketch

We've made a lot of data tooling things based on LLMs, and are in the process of rebranding and launching our main product.

1. sketch (in notebook, ai for pandas) https://github.com/approximatelabs/sketch

2. datadm (open source, "chat with data", with support for the open source LLMs (https://github.com/approximatelabs/datadm)

3. Our main product: julyp. https://julyp.com/ (currently under very active rebrand and cleanup) -- but a "chat with data" style app, with a lot of specialized features. I'm also streaming me using it (and sometimes building it) every weekday on twitch to solve misc data problems (https://www.twitch.tv/bluecoconut)

For your next question, about the stack and deploy:

From making a few variations on data chatbots in the past year, I found that my favorite / most fun to use ones seem to be more "chain-of-thought" and conversational rather than "retrieval-augmented" style.

Less about one-shotting the answer, and more about showing its work, if it errors, letting it self-correct. Latency goes up, but quality of the entire conversation also goes up, and feels like it builds more trust with the user. Key steps are asking it to "check its work", and watching it work through new code etc. (I open-sourced one version of this: https://github.com/approximatelabs/datadm that can be run entirely locally / privately)

From their article: I'm surprised they got something working well by going through an intermediate DSL -- thats moving even further away from the source-material that the LLMs are trained on, so it's an entirely new thing to either teach or assume is part of the in-context learning.

All that said, interesting: I'll definitely have to try out tencentmusic/supersonic and see how it feels myself.

Pretty good examples and simple explanations. I didn't realize Claude 2 was so good at working with PDFs natively. I wonder if they're doing anything special? Is this just due to larger context length they have?

Also, biased opinion on my part: I'm especially interested in watching how these things affect data science and data literacy as a whole. Code interpreter is a game changer in my opinion, the most powerful tool that somehow isn't getting as much press I think it deserves. I released an open source code-interpreter for data (https://github.com/approximatelabs/datadm) and even though I know how to code and use Jupyter daily, I still find myself doing analysis with it instead.

All in all, it does seem like the different models and agents are gaining "specialization" skill is actually good for the user (rather than just using a single jack of all trades super chat model). Even though GPT-4 takes the language model crown, there's still specialization that matters and improves quality for different tasks as discussed here.

I wonder if in 2-5 years we'll all use "a single" AI chat interface for everything, or every specialization continues to "win at its own vertical" and we just have AI embedded inside of every app

I completely agree that greatly increasing data accessibility is a huge unlock and value add.

A package I open sourced recently might be useful for use cases like this, https://github.com/approximatelabs/datadm It's essentially a chatGPT code interpreter, specifically designed to work with data, that can be run entirely on open models (eg. StarChat). True local mode operation.

Here's the github repo https://github.com/approximatelabs/datadm

We've made a lot of data tooling things based on LLMs, and are in the process of rebranding and launching our main product.

1. sketch (in notebook, ai for pandas) https://github.com/approximatelabs/sketch

2. datadm (open source, "chat with data", with support for the open source LLMs (https://github.com/approximatelabs/datadm)

3. Our main product: julyp. https://julyp.com/ (currently under very active rebrand and cleanup) -- but a "chat with data" style app, with a lot of specialized features. I'm also streaming me using it (and sometimes building it) every weekday on twitch to solve misc data problems (https://www.twitch.tv/bluecoconut)

For your next question, about the stack and deploy:

This morning I added a "Related Projects" [3] Section to the Buckaroo docs. If Buckaroo doesn't solve your problem, look at one of the other linked projects (like Mito).

[1] https://github.com/approximatelabs/sketch

[2] https://github.com/paddymul/buckaroo

[3] https://buckaroo-data.readthedocs.io/en/latest/FAQ.html

For GPT/Copilot style help for pandas, in notebooks REPL flow (without needing to install plugins), I built sketch. I genuinely use it every-time I'm working on pandas dataframes for a quick one-off analysis. Just makes the iteration loop so much faster. (Specifically the `.sketch.howto`, anecdotally I actually don't use `.sketch.ask` anymore)

https://github.com/approximatelabs/sketch

https://github.com/approximatelabs/lambdaprompt It has served all of my personal use-cases since making it, including powering `sketch` (copilot for pandas) https://github.com/approximatelabs/sketch

Core things it does: Uses jinja templates, does sync and async, and most importantly treats LLM completion endpoints as "function calls", which you can compose and build structures around just with simple python. I also combined it with fastapi so you can just serve up any templates you want directly as rest endpoints. It also offers callback hooks so you can log & trace execution graphs.

All together its only ~600 lines of python.

I haven't had a chance to really push all the different examples out there, but most "complex behaviors", so there aren't many patterns to copy. But if you're comfortable in python, then I think it offers a pretty good interface.

I hope to get back to it sometime in the next week to introduce local-mode (eg. all the open source smaller models are now available, I want to make those first-class)

Please look at sketch and langchain pandas/SQL plugins. I have seen excellent results with both of these approaches. Both of these approaches will require you to send metadata to openAI.

👉 Understand your data through questions 👉 Create code from plain text Quick Read: https://www.marktechpost.com/2023/02/01/meet-sketch-an-ai-code-writing-assistant-for-pandas/ Github: https://github.com/approximatelabs/sketch

(3) Asking for re-writes of failed queries (happens occasionally) also helps

The main challenge I think with a lot of these "look it works" tools for data applications, is how do you get an interface that actually will be easy to adopt. The chat-bot style shown here (discord and slack integration) I can see being really valuable, as I believe there has been some traction with these style integrations with data catalog systems recently. People like to ask data questions to other people in slack, adding a bot that tries to answer might short-circuit a lot of this!

We built a prototype where we applied similar techniques to the pandas-code-writing part of the stack, trying to help keep data scientists / data analysts "in flow", integrating the code answers in notebooks (similar to how co-pilot puts suggestions in-line) -- and released https://github.com/approximatelabs/sketch a little while ago.

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