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cornucopia
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We built our customer data warehouse all on Postgres
There are multiple queries each separated by ; and on top of each query, there's a comment giving a name to the query (it's more like a header)
I think the only thing that would require specific support in postgres_lsp is using the :parameter_name syntax for prepared statements [1] (in vanilla Postgres would be something like $1 or $2, but in Cornucopia it is named to aid readability). But, if postgres_lsp is forgiging enough to not choke on that, then it seems completely fit for this use case.
[0] https://github.com/cornucopia-rs/cornucopia
[1] https://cornucopia-rs.netlify.app/book/writing_queries/writi...
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Is ORM still an anti-pattern?
Some examples for anyone else reading:
https://github.com/kyleconroy/sqlc
https://github.com/cornucopia-rs/cornucopia
This is my preferred method of interacting with databases now.
Very flexible.
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What ORM do you use?
I like Cornucopia. It’s a SQL-first approach, so I don’t have to worry about an ORM generating pathological queries. It’s also basically zero cost compared to directly using rust-postgres and supports both sync and async. I also like that my SQL queries end up separate from my Rust code, so it’s easy to update all the relevant queries when the schema changes.
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What is the recommended way to implement session authorization?
Also, I moved away from SQLx due to slow compile times and now use https://github.com/cornucopia-rs/cornucopia
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Oops, You Wrote a Database
While we're on the subject of ORM's I really like the https://github.com/cornucopia-rs/cornucopia way of doing things.
Basically write SQL in a file and code generate a function that runs the SQL for you and puts it into a struct (this one is for rust)
I think there's a library to do the same thing with typescript.
For me, the best way to talk to the database is with SQL and I don't have to learn an ORMs way of doing it.
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Thoughts about switching from sqlx to tokio_postgres?
You can take a look at https://github.com/cornucopia-rs/cornucopia which is a thin codegen layer on top of tokio-postgres for ease of use.
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Ormlite: An ORM in Rust for developers that love SQL
I think we have that https://github.com/cornucopia-rs/cornucopia
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Ask HN: ORM or Native SQL?
The best solution I've ever seen is this Rust library https://github.com/cornucopia-rs/cornucopia
You write plain SQL for you schema (just a schema.sql is enough) and plain SQL functions for your queries. Then it generates Rust types and Rust functions from from that. If you don't use Rust, maybe there's a library like that for your favorite language.
Optionally, pair it with https://github.com/bikeshedder/tusker or https://github.com/blainehansen/postgres_migrator (both are based off https://github.com/djrobstep/migra) to generate migrations by diffing your schema.sql files, and https://github.com/rust-db/refinery to perform those migrations.
Now, if you have simple crud needs, you should probably use https://postgrest.org/en/stable/ and not an ORM. There are packages like https://www.npmjs.com/package/@supabase/postgrest-js (for JS / typescript) and probably for other languages too.
If you insist on an ORM, the best of the bunch is prisma https://www.prisma.io/ - outside of the typescript/javascript ecosystem it has ports for some other languages (with varying degrees of completion), the one I know about is the Rust one https://prisma.brendonovich.dev/introduction
- Anything like sqlc for Rust?
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What features would you consider missing/nice to haves for backend web development in Rust?
Does Cornucopia satisfy this requirement?
pggen
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Ask HN: ORM or Native SQL?
Cornucopia is neat. I wrote a similar library in Go [1] so I'm very interested in comparing design decisions.
The pros of the generated code per query approach:
- App code is coupled to query outputs and inputs (an API of sorts), not database tables. Therefore, you can refactor your DB without changing app code.
- Real SQL with the full breadth of DB features.
- Real type-checking with what the DB supports.
The cons:
- Type mapping is surprisingly hard to get right, especially with composite types and arrays and custom type converters. For example, a query might return multiple jsonb columns but the app code wants to parse them into different structs.
- Dynamic queries don't work with prepared statements. Prepared statements only support values, not identifiers or scalar SQL sub-queries, so the codegen layer needs a mechanism to template SQL. I haven't built this out yet but would like to.
[1]: https://github.com/jschaf/pggen
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What are the things with Go that have made you wish you were back in Spring/.NET/Django etc?
pggen is another fantastic library in this genre, which specifically targets postgres. It is driven by pgx. Can not recommend enough.
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Exiting the Vietnam of Programming: Our Journey in Dropping the ORM (In Golang)
> Do you write out 120 "INSERT" statements, 120 "UPDATE" statements, 120 "DELETE" statements as raw strings
Yes. For example: https://github.com/jschaf/pggen/blob/main/example/erp/order/....
> that is also using an ORM
ORM as a term covers a wide swathe of usage. In the smallest definition, an ORM converts DB tuples to Go structs. In common usage, most folks use ORM to mean a generic query builder plus the type conversion from tuples to structs. For other usages, I prefer the Patterns of Enterprise Application Architecture terms [1] like data-mapper, active record, and table-data gateway.
[1]: https://martinfowler.com/eaaCatalog/
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Back to basics: Writing an application using Go and PostgreSQL
You might like pggen (I’m the author) which only supports Postgres and pgx. https://github.com/jschaf/pggen
pggen occupies the same design space as sqlc but the implementations are quite different. Sqlc figures out the query types using type inference in Go which is nice because you don’t need Postgres at build time. Pggen asks Postgres what the query types are which is nice because it works with any extensions and arbitrarily complex queries.
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How We Went All In on sqlc/pgx for Postgres + Go
Any reason to use sqlc over pggen ? If you use Postgres, it seems like the superior option.
- We Went All in on Sqlc/Pgx for Postgres and Go
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What are your favorite packages to use?
Agree with your choices, except go-json which I never tried. pggen is fantastic. Love that library. The underlying driver, pgx, is also really well written.
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I don't want to learn your garbage query language
You might like the approach I took with pggen[1] which was inspired by sqlc[2]. You write a SQL query in regular SQL and the tool generates a type-safe Go querier struct with a method for each query.
The primary benefit of pggen and sqlc is that you don't need a different query model; it's just SQL and the tools automate the mapping between database rows and Go structs.
[1]: https://github.com/jschaf/pggen
[2]: https://github.com/kyleconroy/sqlc
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What is the best way to use PostgreSQL with Go?
I created pggen a few weeks ago to create my preferred method of database interaction: I write real SQL queries and I use generated, type-safe Go interfaces to the queries. https://github.com/jschaf/pggen
What are some alternatives?
sqlx - 🧰 The Rust SQL Toolkit. An async, pure Rust SQL crate featuring compile-time checked queries without a DSL. Supports PostgreSQL, MySQL, and SQLite.
sqlc - Generate type-safe code from SQL
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SQLBoiler - Generate a Go ORM tailored to your database schema.
rbatis - Rust Compile Time ORM robustness,async, pure Rust Dynamic SQL
sqlpp11 - A type safe SQL template library for C++
diesel_async - Diesel async connection implementation
pggen - A database first code generator focused on postgres
bb8 - Full-featured async (tokio-based) postgres connection pool (like r2d2)
SqlKata Query Builder - SQL query builder, written in c#, helps you build complex queries easily, supports SqlServer, MySql, PostgreSql, Oracle, Sqlite and Firebird
typed-session-axum - Typed-session as axum middleware
honeysql - Turn Clojure data structures into SQL