cider VS nrepl

> I do think cider (https://github.com/clojure-emacs/cider) has stuff regarding stepping debuggers, but I'm not sure how common it is to use it. Maybe other Clojure users can fill me in :)

I don't really care about stepping; for me the debugger is about inspecting the state of my program when an exception (maybe because I interrupted it, or because I inserted a breakpoint, or just because something went wrong) happens. Backtrace, local variables, evaluating forms at different stack frames and so-forth.

This was a pain. I tried using vscode with calva, but gave up pretty soon after starting. Ended up using emacs with cider, which was pretty nice, but had a huge learning curve for me since I'm not an emacs user. (Maybe I am after this...)

I was wondering that what the author and other redditors here would think of/about Cursive, an affordable IDE for Clojure, while they have cider in Emacs as well.

I'm very excited about sideloader feature in nREPL 0.9 and the corresponding ability for CIDER to upgrade the connection, adding its middleware. But I don't see this connection upgrading feature ticket #3037 in the plans for CIDER 1.2, but the sideloader ticket #246 is listed in the plans for nREPL 0.9. It seems that #3037 is held only by #246, so if it will be solved by the time 0.9 release, will there be plans to supporting it in CIDER 1.2?

He participated in the discussions here, but so far there hasn't been any actual work happening after them. My focus was mostly on CIDER lately, but I think it'd be nice to start creating some tickets based on the discussions and try to get some work done on that front. There were plenty of cool ideas and most of them aren't particularly hard to implement.

There’s active discussion on the nrepl repo about this article and related issues, so if you have thoughts about the future of nrepl, you should voice them there!

I'm very excited about sideloader feature in nREPL 0.9 and the corresponding ability for CIDER to upgrade the connection, adding its middleware. But I don't see this connection upgrading feature ticket #3037 in the plans for CIDER 1.2, but the sideloader ticket #246 is listed in the plans for nREPL 0.9. It seems that #3037 is held only by #246, so if it will be solved by the time 0.9 release, will there be plans to supporting it in CIDER 1.2?

No and no. Scheme is loosely biased toward FP and still you still have a REPL with Scheme dialects, including Racket going as far as to provide an IDE+REPL combination (DrRacket). Clojure is strongly opinionated toward FP and also has a strong REPL experience and a good experience for interactive, iterative development on running programs via nrepl. OCaml, another functional language from the ML family, has one of the best non-lispi REPLs (called a "toplevel" there) around. And, of course, you can do FP in CL as well despite it not really encouraging it in the same way.