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clog
- Embracing Common Lisp in the Modern World
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Use any web browser as GUI, with Zig in the back end and HTML5 in the front end
Reminds me of the approach of CLOG (Common Lisp Omnificent Gui[1]) and its ancestor GNOGA (The GNU Omnificent GUI for Ada[2]).
They also integrate basic components and even graphical UI editor (at least for CLOG), so you can essentially develop the whole thing from inside CL or Ada
[1] https://github.com/rabbibotton/clog
[2] https://github.com/alire-project/gnoga
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Common Lisp: An Interactive Approach (1992) [pdf]
For me David Botton [0] with his work including code, support and videos is doing very nice work in this direction.
I use SBCL for everything but work because I cannot get; we are getting there, but like you say, it’s such a nice experience working interactively building fast that it is magic and it’s painful returning to my daily work of Python and typescript/react. It feels like a waste of time/life, really.
[0] https://github.com/rabbibotton/clog
- CLOG - The Common Lisp Omnificent GUI
- Clog The Common Lisp Omnificent GUI
- Clog – The Common Lisp Omnificent GUI
- Tkinter Designer: Quickly Turn Figma Design to Python Tkinter GUI
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Want to learn lisp?
I was following along on the Windows page and didn't check back on the main README to see if any of the other instructions would help.
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All Web frontend lisp projects
It the answer is "latter", then you could look at Common Lisp and Reblocks (https://40ants.com/reblocks/) or CLOG (https://github.com/rabbibotton/clog).
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How to Understand and Use Common Lisp
I haven't used Clojure professionally in 10 years so with a grain of salt here are my thoughts as only one other person answered...
CL over Clojure: it's the OG Lisp that the creator of Clojure used and wanted to continue using but faced too much resistance from management afraid of anything not-Java/not-Oracle, or not-CLR/not-Microsoft, etc. Clojure shipped originally as "just another jar" so devs could "sneak" it in. If you don't have such a management restriction, why Clojure? If you want to integrate CL with the JVM, you can use the ABCL implementation, there's also something from one of the proprietary Lisps. Some useful CL features that are nice in this domain: conditions and restarts mentioned in a sibling comment (very nice to help interactively develop/debug e.g. a selenium webdriver test), ability to easily compile an exe (perhaps useful for microservices, or just to keep your deployment environment clean and not having to care about Lisp), and ability to easily ship with an open local socket allowing you to SSH in (or SSH port forward) and debug/fix/poke around in production (JVM of course lets you attach debuggers to a running process, even certain billion+ dollar companies will have supervised/limited prod debugging sessions for various hairy cases, but it's not as interactive). You should never hear CL advocates claim you can't scale to large teams/groups of engineers or large multi-million-lines sized projects, though you might oddly hear Clojure advocates sometimes claim you can't (and shouldn't) scale to such large projects -- large groups of engineers are a non-issue for them as well though, the challenge is in hiring, not in the language somehow making it impossible to modularize and keep people from stepping on each other.
Clojure over CL: its integration with the JVM is nicer than ABCL's, so if you do actually want a lot of the great world of Java stuff, it's easier to get at. Database integration libraries are better. Access to libs (Clojure or Java) is via Maven, so it's a larger ecosystem with more self-integrating components (especially around monitoring/metrics) than what's available for Lisp via Quicklisp. Clojure is very opinionated, much of it quite tasteful, and that gives the whole ecosystem a certain consistency. (You can have immutable data structures in CL, you can if you want use [] for literal vectors and make them syntactically important e.g. in let bindings, but not everyone will be on board.) Even though its popularity seems to have stopped growing, at least at the same rate as e.g. Go which it was keeping pace with for a while, it's still popular enough with a bigger community; as a proxy measure there are multiple conferences around the world and good talks at adjacent conferences, whereas Lisp mostly just has one conference in Europe per year and only occasional branching outside of that.
If you're doing a client-side-heavy webapp, ClojureScript is still amazing, CL's answers there aren't very compelling with the exception of CLOG (https://github.com/rabbibotton/clog) which takes an entirely different direction than the usual idea of translating/running Lisp on top of JavaScript and its popular frameworks.
conjure
- Racket Language
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Lisp Programming with Vim (2019)
I was going to say, in 2023 I looked around and for Clojure at least Conjure seemed like the best option.
https://github.com/Olical/conjure/wiki/Client-features
Unfortunately, in the table linked above the CL support in Conjure is so-so. I'm curious what people use for CL or if it's still slimv/vlime.
I did a write up configuring Conjure with neovim here if that's something that's appealing:
- Conjure: Evaluating code within your running program
- Interactive Lisp family languages evaluation for Neovim
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Existing non-lua plugins examples
The excellent olical/conjure plugin is now lua (via fennel..) but it was originally written in clojure and you can still see the code on the legacy-jvm branch https://github.com/Olical/conjure/tree/legacy-jvm
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Configuring Neovim with Fennel
Install conjure plugin
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Spinneret: A modern Common Lisp HTML generator
> You mean that you accidentally "overwrite" (declare again) a function with the same name as the one you're now declaring, but you didn't mean to?
I mean I use let to bind a variable with the same name as a function. This is idiomatic in Common Lisp, and totally breaks things in most other languages.
> This I'm also curious about, what exactly SLIME gives you that for example Conjure for neovim wouldn't already? Maybe something about continuations perhaps? That seems to be the only feature I've seen from Common Lisp (besides actually being able to compile to binaries) that I'd love to have in Clojure.
I watched a video and it does seem rather complete, but [1] indicates there is no debugger? That's a rather glaring omission. I also don't see a profiler mentioned, and SLIME with SBCL gives me a profiler (down to the assembly level if needed). I'm sure Java in general has great profiling tools, but how are the integrated into the Clojure system?
As an aside, by "continuations" did you mean "restarts"? First-class continuations are a feature of scheme, not CL. Indeed a huge boost to CL productivity is simply allowing you to handle an exception before the stack is unwound.
1: https://github.com/Olical/conjure/wiki/Client-features
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clojure's like plugin for golang?
Does anyone know if there is a plugin like this one https://github.com/Olical/conjure for golang? Thank you in advance!
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Looking for documentation on writing a swank client
i know you said you didn't want source of other clients but this one is pretty simple so sharing just in case. it's from a nvim plugin https://github.com/Olical/conjure/blob/master/fnl/conjure/client/common-lisp/swank.fnl
- `yarepl.nvim`, yet Another REPL for Neovim, flexible, supporting multiple paradigms to interact with REPLs, native dot repeat (without `vim-repeat`), telescope integration, and more!
What are some alternatives?
kandria - A post-apocalyptic actionRPG. Now on Steam!
cider-nrepl - A collection of nREPL middleware to enhance Clojure editors with common functionality like definition lookup, code completion, etc.
stumpwm - The Stump Window Manager
vim-scriptease - scriptease.vim: A Vim plugin for Vim plugins
awesome-cl - A curated list of awesome Common Lisp frameworks, libraries and other shiny stuff.
vimspector - vimspector - A multi-language debugging system for Vim
electron-sbcl-sqlite - A simple boilerplate that builds an Electron app with SBCL and SQLite3 embedded
rebel-readline - Terminal readline library for Clojure dialects
weblocks - This fork was created to experiment with some refactorings. They are collected in branch "reblocks".
aniseed - Neovim configuration and plugins in Fennel (Lisp compiled to Lua)
kons-9 - Common Lisp 3D Graphics Project
kaboom.js - 💥 JavaScript game library