civlua VS civboot

http://civboot.org is basically trying to answer exactly this question

I'm designing a simple dev environment from scratch.

My solution for this is a sandboxed lua for programatic configuration:

https://github.com/civboot/civlua/tree/main/lib/luck

I can't stand JSON (for many reasons) so I created a serialization format that combines it and CSV for nested objects

https://github.com/civboot/civlua/tree/main/lib/tso

I wish the industry would standardize on a solution like this. IMO you shouldn't use a "real" language unless you can lock it down to be determinisitic. JSON is supposed to be human readable but fails for lots of real-world data like multi-line strings or lists of records.

CSV is more readable but doesn't supported nested objects.

Have you tried for any length of time?

For example, there's lots of little places where aligning keywords helps clarify code

https://github.com/civboot/civlua/blob/main/ds/ds.lua#L89

Formatters HATE putting multiple statements on a single line, but when they go it makes it so much easier to parse (for a person)

I've built a lua-based markdown which is more sane (from a programmer's PoV) than markdown but still concise

https://github.com/civboot/civlua/tree/main/cxt

I'm planning on supporting syntax highlighting. I could imagine creating a cxx that does what LuaX is doing, except it would support rendering to the command line as well as html.

Want to team up?

Reading "big features" like "multi line input" makes me feel more than ever that we really need an ultra light weight embeddedable text editor.

I wrote one, and while it's not yet complete I can say it's really _not that hard_

https://github.com/civboot/civlua/blob/main/ele/README.md

Sam was one of my main inspirations in starting http://civboot.org. Awesome to see he's managed to make his own chip now!

In case anyone's curious: I didn't recognize the .org domain but I felt lucky, punk, and followed it. civboot.org redirected me to https://github.com/civboot/civboot which I totally would feel comfortable visiting :)

Hey, this is effectively the same idea I'm going to implement!

https://github.com/civboot/civboot/blob/main/blog/0012-dev-l...

Mine will be slightly more than key/value. My index file will support indexes of arbitrary record fields as well as the index of all items in loam, but it's effectively the same idea.

Note you could keep a live instance running to handle live writes, which uses an in-memory hash for recent writes and updates the hash index as-needed. Because the index can be rebuilt from the data there is no concern about data loss.

I had a similar idea and called them "Shifted Search Trees". I can see how they are also a kind of Trie

I've written about how they can not only be used for hashes but also for storing sparse indexes. I'm hoping to write an extremely tiny Lua implementation which uses only slab allocation (even better than arena IMO! Though I do love arena allocators)

https://github.com/civboot/civboot/blob/main/blog/0013-civbo...

Now… all we got is this ACTUAL CIVILIZATION BOOTSTRAPPING PROJECT: https://github.com/civboot/civboot … it’s a wild concept.

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