Apache Camel
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Apache Camel
- Show HN: Winglang – a new Cloud-Oriented programming language
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Ask HN: What is the correct way to deal with pipelines?
"correct" is a value judgement that depends on lots of different things. Only you can decide which tool is correct. Here are some ideas:
- https://camel.apache.org/
- https://www.windmill.dev/
- https://github.com/huginn/huginn
Your idea about a queue (in redis, or postgres, or sqlite, etc) is also totally valid. These off-the-shelf tools I listed probably wouldn't give you a huge advantage IMO.
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Is there something like airflow but written in Scala/Java?
Apache Camel Apache Nifi Spring Cloud
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Why messaging is much better than REST for inter-microservice communications
This reminds me more of Apache Camel[0] than other things it's being compared to.
> The process initiator puts a message on a queue, and another processor picks that up (probably on a different service, on a different host, and in different code base) - does some processing, and puts its (intermediate) result on another queue
This is almost exactly the definition of message routing (ie: Camel).
I'm a bit doubtful about the pitch because the solution is presented as enabling you to maintain synchronous style programming while achieving benefits of async processing. This just isn't true, these are fundamental tradeoffs. If you need a synchronous answer back then no amount of queuing, routing, prioritisation, etc etc will save you when the fundamental resource providing that is unavailable, and the ultimate outcome that your synchronous client now hangs indefinitely waiting for a reply message instead of erroring hard and fast is not desirable at all. If you go into this ad hoc, and build in a leaky abstraction that asynchronous things are are actually synchronous and vice versa, before you know it you are going to have unstable behaviour or even worse, deadlocks all over your system and the worst part - the true state of the system is now hidden in which messages are pending in transient message queues everywhere.
What really matters here is to fundamentally design things from the start with patterns that allow you to be very explicit about what needs to be synchronous vs async (building on principles of idempotency, immutability, coherence, to maximise the cases where async is the answer).
The notion of Apache Camel is to make all these decisions a first class elements of your framework and then to extract out the routing layer as a dedicated construct. The fact it generalises beyond message queues (treating literally anything that can provide a piece of data as a message provider) is a bonus.
[0] https://camel.apache.org/
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Can I continuously write to a CSV file with a python script while a Java application is continuously reading from it?
Since you're writing a Java app to consume this, I highly recommend Apache Camel to do the consuming of messages for it. You can trivially aim it at file systems, message queues, databases, web services and all manner of other sources to grab your data for you, and you can change your mind about what that source is, without having to rewrite most of your client code.
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S3 to S3 transform
For a simple sequential Pipeline, my goto would be Apache Camel. As soon as you want complexity its either Apache Nifi or a micro service architecture.
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🗞️ We have just released our JBang! catalog 🛍️
🐪 Apache Camel : Camel JBang, A JBang-based Camel app for easily running Camel routes.
- 7GUIs of Java/Object Oriented Design?
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System Design: Enterprise Service Bus (ESB)
Apache Camel
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Advanced: Java, JVM and general knowledge
So, my advice is this. Expand your knowledge. Pursue higher education on topics you are familiar with, but also explore topics you are not. Read documentation, but question it. I just found out about something called Apache Camel today that I am excited to read up on. Why is it better than Spring? Is it really? What's happening here? This is always what excites me as a developer and engineer. There is so much to learn.
unison
- Unison Programming Language
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Unison Cloud
Short version: no type classes (yet)
Longer version:
Building upon what Quekid5 mentioned, Unison abilities are an implementation of what is referred to as algebraic effects in programming language literature. They represent capabilities like IO, state, exceptions, etc. They aren't really a replacement for type classes, though in some cases you can shoehorn abilities in where you might otherwise use a type class.
For someone coming from a Haskell background, I think that abilities are closer to a replacement for monad transformers. But in my opinion they are much more ergonomic.
Discusson of type classes comes up a lot. Here is a long-standing GitHub issue: https://github.com/unisonweb/unison/issues/502
For what it's worth, I've written Unison quite a lot over the past few years and while I've missed type classes at times, I think that reading unfamiliar code is easier without them. There's no implicit magic; you can see exactly what is being passed into a function. So far I've been happy with a bit more verbosity for the sake of readability.
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Show HN: Winglang – a new Cloud-Oriented programming language
I've been following the Unison lang [1] for quite some. Wing seem to set similar goals? From the first glance Wing looks more polished, but there's "The Big Idea" behind Unison - is there something similar?
[1]: https://github.com/unisonweb/unison
- Unison Language
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C++ evolution vs C++ successor languages. Circle's feature pragmas let you select your own "evolver language."
in haskell it looks like this, you specify the language extensions you want at the top of the source files: https://github.com/unisonweb/unison/blob/trunk/unison-core/src/Unison/ABT.hs
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Looking for a new language to learn for Advent of Code that's unlike anything you've tried before? Check out Unison!
they adjusted my ticket to be a bug fix on their part.
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Syntax Design
I think Unison is going in this direction. Imo this is a mistake, as a program language functions not just as specification for the machine, but also as communication between programmers. Allowing the introduction of arbitrary dialects to suit individual preferences seems like it would interfere with that communication.
- Unison
- Unison Milestone 3
- What if Git worked with Programming Languages?
What are some alternatives?
Airflow - Apache Airflow - A platform to programmatically author, schedule, and monitor workflows
nvim-treesitter-context - Show code context
Apache Kafka - Mirror of Apache Kafka
dark - Darklang main repo, including language, backend, and infra
Apache Pulsar - Apache Pulsar - distributed pub-sub messaging system
project-m36 - Project: M36 Relational Algebra Engine
Apache ActiveMQ Artemis - Mirror of Apache ActiveMQ Artemis
cone - Cone Programming Language
Spring Boot - Spring Boot
nbdime - Tools for diffing and merging of Jupyter notebooks.
Aeron - Efficient reliable UDP unicast, UDP multicast, and IPC message transport
structured-haskell-mode - Structured editing minor mode for Haskell in Emacs