billabear VS Symfony

> Anecdotally, we've seen a number of larger "open-source alternative to X" projects posted on HN of late that are technically self-deployable, but require so much up-front knowledge that it's not actually accessible to those who might truly be liberated by such software.

Any self-hosted application really needs someone technical unless you're providing something like the DigitalOcean deploy button.

Docker-compose requires technical knowledge to run locally. Sure running "docker compose" is easy but installing it often isn't. As someone quite technical I'm honestly not sure how that would work for deploying on to AWS or GCP even though I know it's possible. I would have to look into it.

Ansible scripts require technical knowledge. Again running the command is easy but installing ansible isn't.

How DigitalOcean's deploy button is really easy as is shown in my demo video - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cbInyGtqLCs&t=1s. Note there is 10 minutes of my app demo inbetween starting the process and me using a deployed version. You can even try it out at https://github.com/BillaBear/billabear it's literally super easy. It's also silly easy to actually build. "DigitalOcean's app platform is so good it makes BillaBear looks good since the deployment is so easy" is literally what I've said to people.

A bit of context so people can understand. I have a subscription management and billing system, it's self-hostable and I provide a managed hosted version too. The license cost is 2,000 GBP using the JetBrains license model with upgrade licenses dropping down to 1,500 GBP. There is technically a lifetime deal (all versions and upgrades) for the next week or so for 500 GBP but I'm not wanting to tell outreach prospects about that it's more of a hidden thing and something I talk about with inbound (because they are normally inbound because they saw the deal and want more info) more context if it helps is billabear.com and github.com/billabear/billabear.

Startup Name / URL BillaBear / www.billabear.com Location of Your Headquarters Berlin, Germany Elevator Pitch/Explainer Video Source-available SaaS Subscription Management and Billing system - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cbInyGtqLCs More details: https://github.com/billabear/billabear What life cycle stage is your startup at? Validation Your role? Founder What goals are you trying to reach this month? Get more customers How could r/startups help? Check it out, maybe give a GitHub star and reach out if you need help improving your billing. Discount for r/startups subscribers? Sure email [[email protected]](mailto:[email protected]) mentioning this and I'll give you a lifetime deal for 500 GBP.

It's source-available and can be found at https://github.com/billabear/billabear.

Currently Laravel is the "go to" for new PHP applications to mostly developers today, if not, plain PHP, Slim, Symfony and other frameworks does the job, but for Wordpress, custom PHP boilerplates or/and outdated PHP patterns (aka, single ton) is what we have for work in mostly cases, if not, hacky ways to integrate frameworks as Laravel itself or parts of it to leverage a better code structure.

Let's have a look at the class EventSourceHttpClient and try to use it in Symfony\Component\Webhook\Server\Transport. It's an entirely hypothetical example to illustrate the point.

Symfony is an open-source PHP framework developed by SensioLabs which has a thriving community of over 300,000 developers with 29k stars and 9.4k forks on GitHub. It provides a set of reusable PHP components and a development methodology for building complex and scalable web applications. It is recommended due to its advanced features and user-friendly environment. The user can also develop microservices.

Symfony 7

Would be great to see for https://github.com/symfony/symfony, thanks! As that's a monorepo it may provide a challenge to the tool.

As Shopware is mostly based on the Symfony framework, which is in turn based on the PHP language, we should also consider learning about the basics, which will also be useful for other frameworks apart from Shopware, like Symfonycasts, symfony.com, php.net.

Use PHP frameworks such as Symfony. It cares about all the stuff.

Symfony is a PHP framework. https://symfony.com/

It caused much of the internal of Drupal to be re-written. This included how it was extended. With previous major versions you learned about new features and APIs. They followed mostly existing design patterns so it was easy to learn and updates your extensions for. With Symfony you had to learn whole new systems and ways of doing things. It was like learning something entirely new. And, porting extensions to it was far more work and time.

Also, the updates made Drupal slower while consuming far more system resources for the same thing. This increased costs to operate.

Internally, the kernel executes a controller, that is a callable, passing it an array of arguments. For each of these arguments, Symfony calculates its value using services that implement the ValueResolverInterface1.