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> I mean no slander or disrespect to anyone involved, but there was a DataDog alternative posted sometime in the last few weeks that had a docker-compose with like 15 containers in it.
Reminds me of Sentry: https://develop.sentry.dev/self-hosted/
This is their example docker-compose for self-hosting: https://github.com/getsentry/self-hosted/blob/master/docker-...
It has:
- exim4 (smtp)
When I see that, I always wonder whether this is part of the business plan of the people who distribute open source software for free, with a paid hosted version. There is some kind of a conflict of interest: the easier the software is to install and operate, the less attractive the hosted version.
I am working on an open-source software with a hosted version myself ( https://sql.ophir.dev ). It's a website builder, and I'm trying to make ease of deployment and operations a competitive advantage, which is marketed on the home page. But it may be idealistic to ask the same of others. My audience is mostly people who will have to operate the software themselves, whereas in most other domains, the people making the choice to use the software and the people who will then have to operate it are not the same.
> Anecdotally, we've seen a number of larger "open-source alternative to X" projects posted on HN of late that are technically self-deployable, but require so much up-front knowledge that it's not actually accessible to those who might truly be liberated by such software.
Any self-hosted application really needs someone technical unless you're providing something like the DigitalOcean deploy button.
Docker-compose requires technical knowledge to run locally. Sure running "docker compose" is easy but installing it often isn't. As someone quite technical I'm honestly not sure how that would work for deploying on to AWS or GCP even though I know it's possible. I would have to look into it.
Ansible scripts require technical knowledge. Again running the command is easy but installing ansible isn't.
How DigitalOcean's deploy button is really easy as is shown in my demo video - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cbInyGtqLCs&t=1s. Note there is 10 minutes of my app demo inbetween starting the process and me using a deployed version. You can even try it out at https://github.com/BillaBear/billabear it's literally super easy. It's also silly easy to actually build. "DigitalOcean's app platform is so good it makes BillaBear looks good since the deployment is so easy" is literally what I've said to people.