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- Biff, a Web Framework for Clojure
- Why Is Jepsen Written in Clojure?
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Riff: A “mycelium-clj” for the Clojure ecosystem?
I definitely believe Clojure needs a rails. Not only will it help beginners get started, if it can help people get started faster and build fast like Django and rails do, I think it'll help more with adoption.
Biff and fulcro seems like they have a shot at this
Biff- https://github.com/jacobobryant/biff
Fulcro - https://github.com/fulcrologic/fulcro
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State of Clojure 2023 Results
Jacob is doing a fantastic job with https://biffweb.com/ If the Clojure community would focus more of its manpower on such projects, then I think we can make Clojure the obvious choice to start a software business, by saving an insane amount of time. And time is by far the scarcest resource in a startup.
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Leaving Clojure - Feedback for those that care
If you can get away with not using React, I highly recommend Biff. It uses XTDB and Rum by default but they can be swapped out pretty easily for Postgres and Reagent. I'm planning to publish some docs on how to do that when I have a chance.
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Help finding a webdev framework that works out of the box
The best one of these imo is https://biffweb.com
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Any resources for "current best practices and learnings?"
I'm also really liking the strategy of the old-school is new again with sever side rendering serving actual HTML instead of JSON for certain things, using HTMX, an example can be found here: https://biffweb.com/
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Anyone here using HTMX with Clojure?
Take a look at Biff project https://biffweb.com/
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Recommendations on Datalog Databases -- Schema Libraries
+1 for Malli and XT! For the relevant parts of Biff, see the example app's schema and the transaction reference docs. Biff has its own transaction format which includes schema checks via malli and various other conveniences, and it gets translated into XT's lower-level transaction format. Might provide some inspiration at least.
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Biff tutorial: build a chat app with Clojure
Rum is used throughout, though mostly via middleware[1], so you (almost) never see any calls to `rum.core/render-static-markup`. But all of the hiccup-style data structures (`[:div "foo"]`, etc) do get rendered by Rum.
htmx doesn't render anything on the backend; rather it gives the frontend more ways to interact with the backend. e.g. say you make an inline form--htmx gives you the ability to display/submit that form without refreshing the entire page, but all the html that's sent to the frontend is still getting rendered first by Rum.
[1] See https://github.com/jacobobryant/biff/blob/6353c406adef034448... and https://github.com/jacobobryant/biff/blob/6353c406adef034448...
hy
- A dialect of Lisp that's embedded in Python
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How to Write a (Lisp) Interpreter (In Python)
Not exactly the same (doesn't embed into the source like this did), but I believe Hylang[0] is the best Lisp package available for modern Python.
[0] https://github.com/hylang/hy
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Sapling: A highly experimental vi-inspired editor where you edit code, not text
Isn't that a bit what hy (https://hylang.org/) tries to do ? AIUI it is a lisp interacting directly with the AST of Python, allowing seamless interop: Python modules can be used from hy and vice versa, everything is transparent.
- Hylang, a Lisp dialect embedded in Python
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Hissp
I’ve been keeping loose tabs on this and Hy[1] for a while, but I’ve had some trouble figuring out the major differences between them and the use-cases for either. Would love to see an in-depth comparison in the form of a blog post sometime (though maybe the answer here is to do the research and write one up myself).
1: https://hylang.org
- Hy
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Ask HN: Is SICP/HtDP still worth reading in 2023? Any alternatives?
“Python is for scientists. Lisp is for engineers.”
Then what does that make Hy language?
https://hylang.org/
Re Languages with lots of example code and LLM’s
With translators or things like Hy lang, one could get the LLM’s to solve your problem in Python before converting it to another form. Then, you just need a translator. If lacking one, it’s easy to translate by hand.
The practicality of this concept will probably vary by use case. My experiments had GPT doing sketching, implementations, boilerplate, and even porting Python to Rust. A legally-clear LLM trained on multiple languages could probably be fine-tuned to do Python to LISP conversions. If not, Hy might be a stepping stone, too.
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Sharing Saturday #469
You could say so: I've been maintaining the compiler since 2016 ;). Infinitesimal Quest 2 + ε (SQ) exists more to advance Hy than for its own sake.
- What if: python without commas
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Best implementation of CL for learning purposes
If you are using Python - you might find Hylang (https://hylang.org) interesting.
What are some alternatives?
kit - Lightweight, modular framework for scalable web development in Clojure
hissp - It's Python with a Lissp.
clojure-py - A implementation of Clojure in pure (dynamic) Python
Fennel - Lua Lisp Language
xtdb - An immutable database for application development and time-travel data compliance, with SQL and XTQL. Developed by @juxt
babashka - Native, fast starting Clojure interpreter for scripting
coast - The fullest full stack clojure web framework
eso-light-attack-weave - This is a macro for the game Elder Scrolls Online
shadow-cljs - ClojureScript compilation made easy
Carp - A statically typed lisp, without a GC, for real-time applications.
nippy - The fastest serialization library for Clojure
hebigo - 蛇語(HEH-bee-go): An indentation-based skin for Hissp.