bash-timestamping-sqlite VS just

> It’s just collecting data for the sake of collecting data.

No, sleep is one of the most important parameters for health!

If in 2024 you are not collecting data on your sleep to take action (and for ex, stop overtraining, reduce drinking etc) to reduce the risks of future brain problems, you are doing it wrong.

> Even if it was accurate, I can just tell by feel

I can't, and I fear it may be the same "overconfidence" issue that cause car accidents when drunk.

I collect logs with my sqlite based bash history collection that I've been running for 5 years: https://github.com/csdvrx/bash-timestamping-sqlite

Thanks to my garmin, I have identified a pattern where I feel ok, but my garmin reported less REM sleep than usual: in the day, I run a few more commands than usual and I have more mistakes (as can be seen by the non-zero return values)

> Should be doable with bash's PROMPT_COMMAND if you are still on bash

Already done, with a sqlite backend: https://github.com/csdvrx/bash-timestamping-sqlite

It will be inspired by https://github.com/csdvrx/bash-timestamping-sqlite but it will add a theme suited for eink and a proper support for shortcuts or keys like delete/backspace/control delete/control backspace etc. as I'm used to Windows shortcuts and can't do with vim if control-left doesn't jump to the left word but I have to do the traditional esc b that I don't like much :)

For bash users who are tempted by zsh interactive "fuzzy" completion, here's my take on it: it's directory-aware (offering different suggestions based on your history of commands in that given directory), pure bash code using sqlite to store data: https://github.com/csdvrx/bash-timestamping-sqlite

The only other dependency is fzy for fuzzy matching.

It should be a super simple feature to add to your terminal emulator: SCP works with a X,Y position. RCP just "jumps" there.

If you keep an accounting of how many lines you have displayed since then, you could alter the response to RCP by also doing the appropriate amount of scrolling: it should only take one variable, the deltaY to scroll.

If you want to test the idea, I think you could even use tmux and send commands to control the scrollback cf ahttps://superuser.com/questions/209437/how-do-i-scroll-in-tm...

I've used similar tricks with RCP/SCP but for simpler things: the only slight difficulty is the deltaY accounting, like when you are executing commands near the bottom of the screen because you must take into account that scolling will happen - but it's essentially similar to your idea.

So check https://github.com/csdvrx/bash-timestamping-sqlite/blob/main... and make sure you understand both how the __notbottom function works, and why PS0 needs an extra Esc[2a

Actually, now that I think more about your idea, it would be sweet to keep a SCP/RCP stack with multiple values, where you can push values with each SCP then pop them with RCP, say in sequence, or maybe just access the nth value with a different command that wouldn't pop them? That could be done nicely by augmenting RCP.

Also you could augment SCP with an optional flag to specify whether the terminal should scroll back upon RCP of this nth entry, and you'd have a great function that would be quite useful (ex: SCP with a jump bool when the return is non 0: you could make a shortcut to jump to the commands that have returned errors)

There's no reason to stop adding cool features to terminals: we're in a terminal renaissance!

Or if you use bash, try my own bash solution: https://github.com/csdvrx/bash-timestamping-sqlite

> The problem happens when somebody "updates" that web server in-place.

Imagine this is 28-nginx : I would jist create another script 29-nginx-update recording the update, even if it: "echo apt-get update; apt-get upgrade nginx ; echo "make sure to fix variable $foo"

Next time I have to do that, I will integrate that into 28-nginx and remove 29-nginx-update

> eventually when someone tries the whole checklist from the beginning, they'll find it's now broken; the steps aren't working as expected.

Maybe I don't understand the issue, but my scripts or text files are simple and meant to be used in sequence. If I hack the scripts, I make sure it still works as expected - and given my natural laziness, I only ever update scripts when deploying to a new server or VM, so I get an immediate feedback if they stop working

Still, sometimes something may work as expected (ex: above, maybe $foo depends on a context?), but it only means I need to generalize the previous solution - and since the script update only happen in the context of a new deployment, everything is still fresh in my head.

To help me with that, I also use zfs snapshots at important steps, to be able to "observe" what the files looked like on the other server at a specific time. The snapshots conveniently share the same name (ex etc@28-nginx) so comparing the files to create a scripts can be easily done with diff -Nur using .zfs/snapshot/ cf https://docs.oracle.com/cd/E19253-01/819-5461/gbiqe/index.ht...

Between that + a sqlite database containing the full history of commands types (including in which directory, and their return code), I rarely have such issues

Shameless plug for that bash history in sqlite: https://github.com/csdvrx/bash-timestamping-sqlite

> I believe that using zsh means, for the vast majority of users, using just a small subset of functionality that gives a better UX when compared to Bash.

What about adding only these functionalities you may care about?

When I tried zsh, what I liked was the history search. Like youm Everything else "wasn't as simple as I expected".

So I fixed my bash. Check https://github.com/csdvrx/bash-timestamping-sqlite :

- stores everything into a sqlite database so 2 separate terminals can access each other history on the go

- add extras details to the history like when the command started, stopped, which with return code, in which directory,

- for accessing the history, uses fzy for fuzzy finding,

- provides 2 separate history search context: either global (ctrl-t) or "this directory only" (ctrl-r), with extra goodies like excluding commands with a non-zero return error code thanks to the extra things saved

I included a few examples of the SQL queries you can run.

I don't like makefiles, but I've been enjoying justfiles: https://github.com/casey/just

I started using just [0] on my projects and have been very happy so far. It is very similar to make but focused on commands rather than build outputs.

Define your recipes and then you can compose them as needed.

[0] https://github.com/casey/just

just - https://github.com/casey/just

Welp there is absolute chaos in that thread -- guess it's not an April Fools joke.

I wonder if relying on CI for anything other than provisioning machines is a mistake -- maybe we should have never moved from doing things from local scripts written in $LANGUAGE.

That said, I'm probably biased since I'm a massive fan of things like `make` and more appropriately for the current age, `just`[0]

[0]: https://github.com/casey/just

> When a command has some cognitive requirements I create a script with some ${1:-default} values and I store them all in $PATH enabled local/bin

I would consider using just for this:

https://github.com/casey/just

Your coworker's experience is more principled: Make is a mediocre tool for executing commands. It wasn't ever designed for that. Although it is pretty common to see what you are mentioning in projects because it doesn't require installing a dependency.

For a repo where an easy to install (single binary) dependency is a non-issue, consider using just. [1] You get `just -l` where you can see all the command available, the ability to use different languages, and overall simpler command writing.

[1] https://github.com/casey/just

This is fantastic, but I'd say that this solution is somewhat in response to this open issue from 2019:

https://github.com/casey/just/issues/429

I really wish just was included as a package in distributions.

So far, I didn't work on new features at all but on stabilizing the ground for further development: 1. CMake lists and modules were rewritten a lot, now managing builds and their configurations is much lesser pain. 2. Brought in Justfile for regular tasks, and it's great, no less. 3. Linters, formatters, analyzers for almost all the code (except for Janet for now, as because of it being a niche and young technology, it didn't get enough attention yet). 4. ECS stub. Now runtime class doesn't look like a god object. 5. Started writing unit tests which didn't happen with my personal projects before and maybe indicates how serious am I about this one :D 6. Some of previously hardcoded data has been moved to INI files. Now, if I release the game in 10 years, and in 10 more years some eccentric person decides to make a variant of it, it will be slightly simpler.

i've grown to like this for my personal projects. https://github.com/casey/just