proposals VS Nim

Compare proposals vs Nim and see what are their differences.

proposals

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Nim is a statically typed compiled systems programming language. It combines successful concepts from mature languages like Python, Ada and Modula. Its design focuses on efficiency, expressiveness, and elegance (in that order of priority). (by nim-lang)
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- GNU General Public License v3.0 or later
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proposals

Posts with mentions or reviews of proposals. We have used some of these posts to build our list of alternatives and similar projects. The last one was on 2024-04-23.
  • An intro to TSConfig for JavaScript Developers
    2 projects | dev.to | 23 Apr 2024
    target - Specifies the ECMAScript target version for the emitted JavaScript. Defaults to ES3. To ensure maximum compatibility, set this to the lowest version that your code requires to run. ESNext setting allows you to target the latest supported proposed features.
  • Writing RFCs
    1 project | dev.to | 6 Mar 2024
    TC39
  • Pipeline Operator great again!
    2 projects | dev.to | 29 Sep 2023
    Current Status: You'd have to check the TC39 proposals repository or the official proposal text for the most recent status. As of my last update, it had not yet reached Stage 4 (final stage) of the TC39 process, which means it wasn't part of the ECMAScript specification yet.
  • Set methods proposal reaches stage 3
    6 projects | /r/javascript | 1 Dec 2022
  • Upcoming ECMAScript features I'm excited about
    6 projects | dev.to | 22 Jul 2022
    More proposals can be found on the official GitHub page.
  • What to learn in 2022
    22 projects | dev.to | 19 Apr 2022
  • Updates from the 89th TC39 meeting
    4 projects | /r/javascript | 2 Apr 2022
    There were a couple of other proposals that made stage 1 too, can see here.
  • Don't make me think, or why I switched to Rails from JavaScript SPAs
    22 projects | news.ycombinator.com | 4 Feb 2022
    The working group most in charge of JS is ECMA's TC-39 (TC => Technical Committee) [0]. They've been taking a very deliberate, slow path to expanding the "standard" library because they take a very serious view of backwards compatibility on the web. Some proposals were shifted because of conflicts with ancient versions of things like MooTools still out in the wild, for instance. (This was the so-called "Smooshgate" incident [1].)

    This may speed up a bit if the Built-In Modules proposal [2] passes, which would add a deliberate `import` URL for standard modules which would give a cleaner expansion point for new standard libraries over adding more global variables or further expanding the base prototypes (Object.prototype, Array.prototype, etc) in ways that increasingly likely have backwards compatibility issues.

    TC-39 works all of their proposals in the open on Github [3] and it can be a fascinating process to watch if you are interested in the language's future direction.

    [0] https://tc39.es/

    [1] https://developers.google.com/web/updates/2018/03/smooshgate

    [2] https://github.com/tc39/proposal-built-in-modules

    [3] https://github.com/tc39/proposals

  • O que são RFCs e como elas funcionam na linguagem PHP
    3 projects | dev.to | 10 Jan 2022
  • Ask HN: Where are the resources for complex architectures for Node.js?
    5 projects | news.ycombinator.com | 30 Dec 2021
    My biggest pointer would be to remember that Java & JavaScript aren't named that way by coincidence. They're two different approaches to a similar problem. Java suffers from Enterprise Development (eg: Enterprise FizzBuzz[0]), JavaScript suffers from Ultimate Accessibility (eg: how many questions on Stack Overflow conflated jQuery and JS?).

    > How should exceptions be managed? [...] Has there been a debate about best practice? Where can I find it?

    I suggest you handle the errors you can and otherwise let it crash.[1][2] Debates in NodeJS-land have steered towards more monadic/Result-like structures and working synchronous-looking try/catch onto async/await. NodeJS and its various components are open source, you'll have a lot of luck looking around on GH for issues & PRs related to a feature -- same for the language, ECMAScript[3] officially.[4]

    Since you mentioned Clojure, have you looked at ClojureScript?[5] That may be a good entry to JS authors & articles you'd enjoy.

    > I have the impression that NodeJS is a bit more magical than the JVM [...] Is that correct? Where are good resources on this subject?

    As other replies have mentioned, you're really talking about V8[6] for the "JSVM" executing that code. A thing I've seen throw some people for a loop is how minimalist the specification actually is.[7] The magic in NodeJS is certainly from V8 and the rate of optimizations there but also libuv,[8] what actually powers the infamous event loop.

    Hope that helps!

    [0]: https://github.com/EnterpriseQualityCoding/FizzBuzzEnterpris...

    [1]: Borrowing from Erlang, see Making reliable distributed systems in the presence of software errors, Joe Armstrong, page 104 "Error Handling Philosophy" https://erlang.org/download/armstrong_thesis_2003.pdf

    [2]: _Most_ kinds of errors will cause the process to crash if you don't handle them, https://nodejs.org/dist/latest-v16.x/docs/api/errors.html . Promise rejections don't (yet) though it emits an error, and callback-based APIs will always consist of an [error, data] tuple for the arguments

    [3]: https://github.com/tc39/proposals

    [4]: Because Oracle owns the trademark, of course: http://tarr.uspto.gov/servlet/tarr?regser=serial&entry=

    [5]: https://clojurescript.org/

    [6]: https://v8.dev/docs

    [7]: "ECMAScript as defined here is not intended to be computationally self-sufficient; indeed, there are no provisions in this specification for input of external data or output of computed results. Instead, it is expected that the computational environment of an ECMAScript program will provide not only the objects and other facilities described in this specification but also certain environment-specific objects, whose description and behaviour are beyond the scope of this specification except to indicate that they may provide certain properties that can be accessed and certain functions that can be called from an ECMAScript program." https://tc39.es/ecma262/#sec-overview

    [8]: https://github.com/libuv/libuv

Nim

Posts with mentions or reviews of Nim. We have used some of these posts to build our list of alternatives and similar projects. The last one was on 2024-04-26.
  • 3 years of fulltime Rust game development, and why we're leaving Rust behind
    21 projects | news.ycombinator.com | 26 Apr 2024
  • Top Paying Programming Technologies 2024
    19 projects | dev.to | 6 Mar 2024
    22. Nim - $80,000
  • "14 Years of Go" by Rob Pike
    2 projects | news.ycombinator.com | 27 Feb 2024
    I think the right answer to your question would be NimLang[0]. In reality, if you're seeking to use this in any enterprise context, you'd most likely want to select the subset of C++ that makes sense for you or just use C#.

    [0]https://nim-lang.org/

  • Odin Programming Language
    23 projects | news.ycombinator.com | 1 Jan 2024
  • Ask HN: Interest in a Rust-Inspired Language Compiling to JavaScript?
    5 projects | news.ycombinator.com | 24 Dec 2023
    I don't think it's a rust-inspired language, but since it has strong typing and compiles to javascript, did you give a look at nim [0] ?

    For what it takes, I find the language very expressive without the verbosity in rust that reminds me java. And it is also very flexible.

    [0] : https://nim-lang.org/

  • The nim website and the downloads are insecure
    1 project | /r/nim | 11 Dec 2023
    I see a valid cert for https://nim-lang.org/
  • Nim
    5 projects | news.ycombinator.com | 6 Dec 2023
    FYI, on the front page, https://nim-lang.org, in large type you have this:

    > Nim is a statically typed compiled systems programming language. It combines successful concepts from mature languages like Python, Ada and Modula.

  • Things I've learned about building CLI tools in Python
    16 projects | news.ycombinator.com | 24 Oct 2023
    You better off with using a compiled language.

    If you interested in a language that's compiled, fast, but as easy and pleasant as Python - I'd recommend you take a look at [Nim](https://nim-lang.org).

    And to prove what Nim's capable of - here's a cool repo with 100+ cli apps someone wrote in Nim: [c-blake/bu](https://github.com/c-blake/bu)

  • Mojo is now available on Mac
    13 projects | news.ycombinator.com | 19 Oct 2023
    Chapel has at least several full-time developers at Cray/HPE and (I think) the US national labs, and has had some for almost two decades. That's much more than $100k.

    Chapel is also just one of many other projects broadly interested in developing new programming languages for "high performance" programming. Out of that large field, Chapel is not especially related to the specific ideas or design goals of Mojo. Much more related are things like Codon (https://exaloop.io), and the metaprogramming models in Terra (https://terralang.org), Nim (https://nim-lang.org), and Zig (https://ziglang.org).

    But Chapel is great! It has a lot of good ideas, especially for distributed-memory programming, which is its historical focus. It is more related to Legion (https://legion.stanford.edu, https://regent-lang.org), parallel & distributed Fortran, ZPL, etc.

  • NIR: Nim Intermediate Representation
    1 project | /r/hackernews | 2 Oct 2023

What are some alternatives?

When comparing proposals and Nim you can also consider the following projects:

DIPs - D Improvement Proposals

zig - General-purpose programming language and toolchain for maintaining robust, optimal, and reusable software.

peps - Python Enhancement Proposals

go - The Go programming language

proposal-set-methods - Proposal for new Set methods in JS

Odin - Odin Programming Language

temporal-polyfill - Polyfill for Temporal (under construction)

rust - Empowering everyone to build reliable and efficient software.

proposal-change-array-by-copy - Provides additional methods on Array.prototype and TypedArray.prototype to enable changes on the array by returning a new copy of it with the change.

crystal - The Crystal Programming Language

FizzBuzzEnterpris

v - Simple, fast, safe, compiled language for developing maintainable software. Compiles itself in <1s with zero library dependencies. Supports automatic C => V translation. https://vlang.io