apt VS apt

> Cron has a bunch of this kind of thing built in

At least Vixie cron doesn't support anything like this.

Each cron job that needs it has to implement it on its own, e.g.:

https://github.com/Debian/apt/blob/2.5.1/debian/apt.apt-comp...

mkdir /tmp/build && cd /tmp/build wget -r --no-parent https://github.com/Debian/apt/ cmake . ./apt install git

Look at https://github.com/Debian/apt for inspiration.

I believe there's a command line option you have to use now. Poked around and found the release commit:

Haha, commit 312e7d7310e07757c59cd7ac0f20d0b416b43026/release 2.3.12 is dedicated to Linus Tech Tip

Apt (https://github.com/Debian/apt) is a package manager, and its very concept is to connect to various repositories of software and get a list of everything available and allow you to easily install the software. Without even looking at the source I am certain this distro is connecting to many of them every time there is an apt update. This is not "pinging" as described, for some nefarious purpose it is simply retrieving data that you are requesting by doing an apt update.

And if that's not enough, you yourself seem to have been responsible that exactly this change was added to apt. If I may refresh your memory: https://github.com/pop-os/apt/pull/1 It even links to upstream Debian work mentioning exactly this method: https://salsa.debian.org/apt-team/apt/-/merge_requests/196

And no matter how hard it is, if it's possible to break it, someone will find their way to completely breaking the system. Look at what Linus had to do to break his Pop!_OS install - go to the terminal (which already renders it far out of reach for the average user), run sudo apt install steam, and ignore a giant error. And that wouldn't work anymore anyway, because Pop now uses a version of APT that completely forbids breaking the system unless specifically configured to allow it - so there is now an extra step in there, telling APT not to preserve pop-desktop.

This isn't locking it down. This is about providing sensible defaults like I mentioned before. For power users, the control is still there. It's easy enough to create the `/etc/apt/break-my-system` file so that you can shoot yourself in the foot if you wanted to. This is not similar to what ChromeOS or Android is doing at all.

ah, I thought you mean https://github.com/pop-os/apt/pull/1

- Improve the GUI package manager error message: https://github.com/pop-os/shop/pull/302 - Make the apt message more explicit and make the bypass much harder: https://github.com/pop-os/apt/pull/1

https://github.com/pop-os/apt/pull/1/files Here is the code change. Note line 311.

They have already committed a fix that improves things dramatically.

And they already issued a "fix" to prevent people to easily "break" it.

And their fix for the issue Linus had is downstream only. Not a word said about working with Debian on this.