apple-telemetry VS TextSecure

The privacy setting on IOS is mostly somkes and mirrors as most data is still phoned home, somone made a blocklist of services that „phone home” weirdly often (alltough some I understand, others are there for unknow reason to me). (here is what apple claims each of those send/do ), telemetry is way too closely tied with apple walled garden to fully disable it without loosing funcionality. OEM versions of android arent really better but becuase of the nature of android you can install vanilla android or even a full blown linux distro, there are some efforts to port android and normal linux to iphones, but its very much only a proof of concept, not a end-user os. Generally i personally prefer a open solution for something as low-level as an operating system. Im also very dubious over the iMessage security claims as it had security problems in the past.

Yet they enable personalized advertising by default and collect copious amounts of telemetry? Doesn't seem like "miles ahead" to me.

I just put this list in /etc/hosts. Seems to work well enough. I don’t use any apple services on my Mac. This will probably break those.

https://github.com/adversarialtools/apple-telemetry

Apple has personalized advertising and tracking on by default (having tripled their share of targeted mobile advertising since monopolizing it), as well as a wealth of telemetry and has participated in NSA's PRISM like all other large American tech companies, so I'm not really sure what point is being made here.

They have personalized advertising and tracking on by default, as well as a wealth of telemetry.

If you want a complete list of Apple Servers, check out this link and keep in mind that if you block all of them, services such as updates, App Store, and Apple Pay will probably be blocked by this list..

Moxie's reasons for disallowing Signal distribution via F-droid always rang a little flat to me ( https://github.com/signalapp/Signal-Android/issues/127 ). Lots of chatter about the supposedly superior security model of Google Play Store, and as a result fewer eyes independently building and testing the Signal code base. Everyone is entitled to their opinions, but independent and reproducible builds seem like a net positive for everyone. Always struggled to understand releasing code as open source without taking advantage of the community's willingness to build and test. Looking at it in a new light after the XZ backdoor, and Jia Tan's interactions with other FOSS folk.

Signal has documentation on how to reproduce their Play Store builds and compare them with what you've installed locally:

https://github.com/signalapp/Signal-Android/blob/main/reprod...

There's nothing on Signal blog as of yet, but Signal's git repository was tagged with v7.0.0 yesterday and we can see from the commit history since the previously tagged version (v6.74.4) that there will be a setting to hide one's phone number [1], as well as disabling the previous default behavior of advertising that one is on Signal to all their contacts already using it [2].

[1] https://github.com/signalapp/Signal-Android/commit/8797236b5... (PNP stands for "Phone Number Privacy")

[2] https://github.com/signalapp/Signal-Android/commit/6097e6c30...

Signal works the same but without the user tracking from Meta/Facebook. Many people use it as well but I'm surprised that a majority sticks to WhatsApp.

Telegram and Signal solve this.

Sadly yes: Looks like an open issue 13290 for Signal, sounds like they were/are indeed still interacting through google's push notification service, wat, and per a link at that issue it was a chore for Tutanota to break away once they realised it was a problem some years ago (though at least they thought about it years ago? wtf Signal...)

Here is one: https://github.com/signalapp/Signal-Android/tree/main/reprod...

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