Web-Environment-Integrity VS Reddit

Repo has be archived - "NOTE: This proposal is no longer pursued."

https://github.com/RupertBenWiser/Web-Environment-Integrity

[2] - https://github.com/RupertBenWiser/Web-Environment-Integrity/...

I think the best issue raised is: Why would I, as a user, want this?

https://github.com/RupertBenWiser/Web-Environment-Integrity/...

There were proposals for protecting against this in the WEI explainer under "Open Questions" https://github.com/RupertBenWiser/Web-Environment-Integrity/...

The Web Environment Integrity is yet another Google proposal for making the web worse for everyone but them.

Point me to anything which would give websites access to that information via WEI. There is nothing. I have seen nothing except FUD. Aside from that, this only attests for the device. Ad-blockers can be external. This does nothing for external ad-blockers.

Explicit non-goals for WEI:

"Enforce or interfere with browser functionality, including plugins and extensions."

https://github.com/RupertBenWiser/Web-Environment-Integrity/...

That also applies to Javascript, or being forced to use some form of an up-to-date browser. What is different with WEI?

I didn't see many people debating the actual text of the WEI explainer[0] on the HN posts about WEI, and that's probably because they were links to articles about WEI. The HN post for the explainer with the most upvotes only has 89[1], likely because most of HN treats the upvote as "I agree/like this" instead of "boost this topic for discussion".

0: https://github.com/RupertBenWiser/Web-Environment-Integrity/...

1: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=36785516

> If you don't want my browser to render content as it sees fit, don't serve the content over a protocol where that dynamic is inherent.

to play the devil's advocate, this is why google proposed the WEI (https://github.com/RupertBenWiser/Web-Environment-Integrity/...). Be careful what you wish for...

https://github.com/RupertBenWiser/Web-Environment-Integrity/...

I stopped reading after the explainer’s intro section. The first example is making it easier for websites to sell adds (lmao) and the other 3 are extremely questionable whether if the proposed remedy even helps. And it’s presented as a benevolent alternative to browser fingerprinting, as if we must choose between these two awful choices. It’s an absolute joke of a proposal.

Slashdot, reddit, and HN are similar in that the source code was available. For HN, as part of arc under the Artistic license. All 3 abandoned public source code releases.

https://sourceforge.net/projects/slashcode/

https://github.com/arclanguage/anarki

https://github.com/reddit-archive/reddit

While it would likely have zero overlap with the code in use today if you look at the old code Reddit used to publish for voting the model at that point used to have flags/checks for :

I've been trying to host my own instance of Reddit from archived source code on GitHub. Even though I am aware that's probably not a good idea since many dependencies are broken and there's practically no documentation on anything (and it's really old legacy code), but I still decided to give it a shot.

Shh, don't tell spez, the code is already available on the github https://github.com/reddit-archive/reddit/

Automod to act based on keywords/domains/etc., ideally using the same language/flags/regex/etc. of the original automod (old code) so that it's possible to use existing code. (For detecting off-topic posts, enforcing a title format, reminding the users to add missing details to post, filtering profanity, shadowbanning spammers, etc.)

Reddit pre enshittification is actually open source so spinning up your own Reddit instance should be trivially easy. I’m very surprised no one did this after the API protests started

https://github.com/reddit-archive/reddit

There are already 1:1 reddit clones based on older versions of their software that was open source: https://github.com/reddit-archive/reddit