STL
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STL | zig | |
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154 | 816 | |
9,732 | 30,773 | |
1.1% | 3.2% | |
9.7 | 10.0 | |
7 days ago | 3 days ago | |
C++ | Zig | |
GNU General Public License v3.0 or later | MIT License |
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STL
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Show HN: Logfmtxx – Header only C++23 structured logging library using logfmt
Again, they are barely functional.
MSVC chokes on many standard-defined constructs: https://github.com/microsoft/STL/issues/1694
clang does not claim to be "mostly usable" at all - most papers are not implemented: https://clang.llvm.org/cxx_status.html#cxx20
And gcc will only start ot be usable with CMake when version 14 is released - that has not happened yet.
And, as I mentioned before, IDE support is either buggy (Visual Studio) or non-existing (any other IDE/OS). So you're off to writing in a text editor and hoping your compiler works to a somewhat usable degree. Yes, at some point people should start using modules, I agree, but to advise library maintainers to ship modularized code... the tooling just isn't there yet.
I mean, the GitHub issue is Microsoft trying to ship their standard library modularized, they employ some of the most capable folks on the planet and pay them big money to get that done, while metaphorically sitting next to the Microsoft compiler devs, and they barely, barely get it done (with bugs, as they themselves mention). This is too much for most other library maintainers.
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Cpp2 and cppfront – An experimental 'C++ syntax 2' and its first compiler
Notice that there are in practice three distinct implementations of the C++ standard library. They're all awful to read though, here's Microsoft's std::vector https://github.com/microsoft/STL/blob/main/stl/inc/vector
However you're being slightly unfair because Rust's Vec is just defined (opaquely) as a RawVec plus a length value, so let's link RawVec, https://doc.rust-lang.org/src/alloc/raw_vec.rs.html -- RawVec is the part responsible for the messy problem of how to actually implement the growable array type.
Still, the existence of three C++ libraries with slightly different (or sometimes hugely different) quality of implementation means good C++ code can't depend on much beyond what the ISO document promises, and yet it must guard against the nonsense inflicted by all three and by lacks of the larger language. In particular everything must use the reserved prefix so that it's not smashed inadvertently by a macro, and lots of weird C++ idioms that preserve performance by sacrificing clarity of implementation are needed, even where you'd ordinarily sacrifice to get the development throughput win of everybody know what's going on. For example you'll see a lot of "pair" types bought into existence which are there to squirrel away a ZST that in C++ can't exist, using the Empty Base Optimisation. In Rust the language has ZSTs so they can just write what they meant.
- C++ Specification vs Implementation
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C++23: Removing garbage collection support
Here is Microsoft's implementation of map in the standard library. I think of myself as a competent programmer / computer scientist. I couldn't write this: https://github.com/microsoft/STL/blob/f392449fb72d1a387ac502...
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std::condition_variable wait for (very) long time
Be careful on Windows, the MSVC STL implementation uses the system time, so it can be badly impacted by clock adjustments: https://github.com/microsoft/STL/issues/718
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Compiler explorer: can you use C++23 std lib modules with MSVC already?
Can you provide a link? If it affects import std;, I'd like to add it to my tracking issue.
- Learn to write production quality STL like classes
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MSVC C++23 Update
Do you have a list of the bugs you've filed and their current status, like the one I have for the STL? I saw you mentioned 3 bugs 7 months ago, 2 of which were fixed in 17.6 and the third of which was a duplicate of an active bug ("deducing this" is known to not yet work with modules, which is why we don't define the feature-test macro to claim full support).
- C++/CLI wrap of a C++ class that includes <future> in public header
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Has Boost lost its charm?
Yep. And look at our implementation's name: https://github.com/microsoft/STL
zig
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Memory-mapped IO registers in Zig. (2021)
There is an issue proposing this approach: https://github.com/ziglang/zig/issues/4284
- Zig Programming Language
- Zig Language 0.12 Release
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Zig 0.12.0 Release Notes
https://github.com/ziglang/zig/issues/224
e.g.:
> > When debugging/prototyping, it's useful to comment out a line without having to refactor, e.g.
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How to Write a PHP Extension with Zig?
When writing code in a scripting language, sometimes you need that extra bit of performance (or maybe an async feature from Zig).
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Bun - The One Tool for All Your JavaScript/Typescript Project's Needs?
NodeJS is by no means a slow runtime, it wouldn’t be so popular if it was. But compared to Bun, it’s slow. Bun was built from the ground up with speed in mind, using both JavascriptCore and Zig. The Bun team spent an enormous amount of time and energy trying to make Bun fast, including lots of profiling, benchmarking, and optimizations.
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Bun 1.1
ntdll.dll!RtlUserThreadStart()
There are valid reasons to use APIs from NTDLL. Where I disagree with zig#1840 is the idea that it is always better to use NTDLL versions of API. Every other software ecosystem uses the standard Win32 APIs and diverging from that without a good reason seems like a good way to have unexpected behavior. One concrete example is most users and programmers expect Windows to redirect some file system paths when running on WOW64. But this is implemented in Kernel32, not ntdll.
https://github.com/ziglang/zig/issues/11894
- Zig, Rust, and Other Languages
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Nanos – A Unikernel
Zig also has an IRC channel on libera (#zig) that is moderated by Andrew Kelley.[1]
[1] https://github.com/ziglang/zig/wiki/Community
- Ask HN: What Underrated Open Source Project Deserves More Recognition?
What are some alternatives?
EA Standard Template Library - EASTL stands for Electronic Arts Standard Template Library. It is an extensive and robust implementation that has an emphasis on high performance.
Nim - Nim is a statically typed compiled systems programming language. It combines successful concepts from mature languages like Python, Ada and Modula. Its design focuses on efficiency, expressiveness, and elegance (in that order of priority).
asio - Boost.org asio module
Odin - Odin Programming Language
robin-hood-hashing - Fast & memory efficient hashtable based on robin hood hashing for C++11/14/17/20
v - Simple, fast, safe, compiled language for developing maintainable software. Compiles itself in <1s with zero library dependencies. Supports automatic C => V translation. https://vlang.io
tracy - Frame profiler
rust - Empowering everyone to build reliable and efficient software.
gcc
go - The Go programming language
llvm-project - The LLVM Project is a collection of modular and reusable compiler and toolchain technologies.
ssr-proxy-js - A Server-Side Rendering Proxy focused on customization and flexibility!