ROCm VS rocm-arch

ROCm is not spelled out anywhere in their documentation and the best answers in search come from Github and not AMD official documents

"Radeon Open Compute Platform"

https://github.com/ROCm/ROCm/issues/1628

And they wonder why they are losing. Branding absolutely matters.

https://github.com/ROCm/ROCm/issues/1353

Bought in 2020. Stopped working in 2020. Not the latest, but in-production, advertised ROCm-capable, and what I could find during the Great GPU Shortage of 2020.

Maybe so. But it isn't confidence inspiring when I go to see which cards are supported and I see this issue:

https://github.com/ROCm/ROCm/issues/1714

With Nvidia cards, I know that if I buy any Nvidia card made in the last 10 years, CUDA code will run on it. Period. (Yes, different language levels require newer hardware, but Nvidia docs are quite clear about which CUDA versions require which silicon.)

The will-they-won't-they and the rapidly dropped support is hurting the otherwise excellent ROCm and HIP projects. There is a huge API surface to implement and it looks like they're making rapid gains.

Like, there is: https://github.com/ROCm/ROCm.github.io/blob/master/hardware.md but I'm pretty sure that's very very outdated, maybe from 4.x?

Fair enough I'll give you that. Although it is listed as officially supported here, other documentation says it works but is not officially supported.

Do you have a source? The 580 and several older cards are listed as officially supported here, and even some 2xx/3xx cards are listed as unofficially supported.

Some of the GPUs listed in your link are for consumers. For a more extensive list, see https://github.com/ROCm/ROCm.github.io/blob/master/hardware.md

Very conveniently, your linked page (the therein linked pages) do not talk about which GPUs actually do support ROCm. This is probably because AMDs newest cards do not support ROCm in any way, and would guess they don't want the sales pact this lack of feature could cause. Please do evaluate yourself, here: https://github.com/ROCm/ROCm.github.io/blob/master/hardware.md

I never could get rocm/hip to work on mint after going round and round several times over months. I finally switched distros and had it running in minutes under an arch based distro using https://github.com/rocm-arch/rocm-arch

I struggled for some time trying to make AMD's Rocm/HIP work in linux so I could use my GPU with blender. Never could get it to work across several distros (mint, ubuntu, fedora). I finally dropped it and just ran GPUless for months. I have since found myself on Manjaro and gave it another try after finding this github. Using this on manjaro I was able to install rocm/hip in NO time and am now using blender with my AMD GPU in linux.

To do this, you need to use the repository: https://github.com/rocm-arch/rocm-arch and checkout to commit 135aa026557d7c11d5f446d6c01521535e9e5747

To make it brief. Trying to install rocm-opencl-runtime and rocm-hip-runtime from rocm-arch on github.

rocm-arch README

Then why doesn't it work unless I have this installed?

Yeah, I had to install rocm using this method https://github.com/rocm-arch/rocm-arch. Afaik, it doesn't replace mesa, but provides OpenCL and HIP.