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Odin
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Introduction to the Odin Programming Language
Odin website sure could! Highlights according to landing page:
> Data-Oriented, Simplicity, High Performance, "Batteries Included", Open Source (BSD 3)
https://odin-lang.org/
- Odin programming language now supports NetBSD
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Giving Odin Vision
This article is about my experience with Odin programming language. So, I won't talk about its features and advantages and provide basic tutorials. There are plenty of materials on those topics.
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Zig, Rust, and Other Languages
There's also Odin[0] too. I tried using them all and Odin was pretty nice. Nim is also good too but a lot more features.
But - I concluded that language matters a lot less compared to APIs. Yes, the language should have enough good features to let the programmers express themselves, but overall well designed APIs matter a lot more than language. For example -tossing most of the C stdlib and following a consistent coding style (similar to one described here -[1]), with using Arenas for memory allocation, I can be just as productive in C.
[0] - https://odin-lang.org
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Odin Programming Language
I highly recommend looking at:
* The Overview: <https://odin-lang.org/docs/overview/>
* examples/demo: <https://github.com/odin-lang/Odin/blob/master/examples/demo/...>
As for the first example: a basic lexing example is probably boring, but it does show some basic ideas of what the language is about. If people want to write better examples or just reorder the current ones, please feel free to make an issue or PR on the website's GitHub page: <https://github.com/odin-lang/odin-lang.org>.
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babel tree
I use Odin primarily, it’s C-level but pascal/Go syntax and inspiration https://odin-lang.org/
- Botlib: Telegram Bots in C by Antirez
- "Odin is a general-purpose programming language with distinct typing built for high performance, modern systems and data-oriented programming."
- Austral Programming Language
- Small Joys with Odin
lobster
- The Lobster Programming Language
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The Neat Programming Language
I think lobster does this.
"Compile time reference counting / lifetime analysis / borrow checker."[1]
"Reference Counting with cycle detection at exit, 95% of reference count ops removed at compile time thanks to lifetime analysis."[1]
[1] https://strlen.com/lobster/
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Why does Rust need humans to tell it how long a variable’s lifetime is?
There is another language, Lobster, that uses lifetime analysis like Rust, but IIUC infers lifetimes completely automatically. It looks like the idea is still experimental - I'm interested to see how it goes.
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What are some must have built-in modules in your opinion/experience?
I think the ability to open a window and do graphical stuff is actually pretty underrated in core language functionality. There's a few game-oriented programming languages like Lobster that put windowing and graphics in the core language functionality, and I think it's pretty neat. The biggest downside is that it's a lot to bite off, because you'll probably want to have standardized API functionality for a whole host of things like font rendering, image loading, etc.
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Minetest: An open source voxel game engine
The actual game itself, yes. Based on this open source project though which provides the language its written in and core engine tech: https://github.com/aardappel/lobster
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Plane - FOSS and self-hosted JIRA replacement. This new project has been useful for many folks, sharing it here too.
I'm keeping an eye on Lobster though. It fixes most of Python's problems. It's way faster, has proper static typing, the import system is sane, etc.
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Using a borrow checker to track mutable refs in a GCed FP language?
Lobster (https://strlen.com/lobster/) appears to at least do lifetime analysis to reduce refcounting. I'm not sure about automatic interior mutability. I feel like there's a keyword here that can help find other compilers with similar features.
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What would make you try a new language?
Also, can I introduce you to https://strlen.com/lobster/, a garbage collected language made for game development by (and primarily for) the one and only Wouter "aardappel" van Oortmerssen?
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In a custom typed imperative programming language, what should the compiler do next, after resolving variable references?
I would like to make it work to some degree like Rust with a borrow checker, and have optional static typing (with type inference wherever it can). Other sources of inspiration, lobster lang, and dart. It is going to (eventually...) compile to several places like dart (browser, iOS, android, linux, etc.). After I've created the AST, I've gone straight to code generation, because that's the easy part IME. But now have to insert the "middle" and do typechecking/borrowchecking/inference/other checking. This is for an imperative-style language.
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Features you've removed from your lang? Why did you put them in, why did you take them out?
Over the ~12 years of Lobster (https://strlen.com/lobster/) 's existence, features that were removed (in this order): * Lexical scoping. * Icon style backtracking. * Small-talk like syntax. * Dynamic Typing. * Multimethods. * Frame based state (like FRP). * Co-routines.
What are some alternatives?
zig - General-purpose programming language and toolchain for maintaining robust, optimal, and reusable software.
cakelisp - Metaprogrammable, hot-reloadable, no-GC language for high perf programs (especially games), with seamless C/C++ interop
v - Simple, fast, safe, compiled language for developing maintainable software. Compiles itself in <1s with zero library dependencies. Supports automatic C => V translation. https://vlang.io
treesheets - TreeSheets : Free Form Data Organizer (see strlen.com/treesheets)
Nim - Nim is a statically typed compiled systems programming language. It combines successful concepts from mature languages like Python, Ada and Modula. Its design focuses on efficiency, expressiveness, and elegance (in that order of priority).
language-ext - C# functional language extensions - a base class library for functional programming
rust - Empowering everyone to build reliable and efficient software.
swift - The Swift Programming Language
carbon-lang - Carbon Language's main repository: documents, design, implementation, and related tools. (NOTE: Carbon Language is experimental; see README)
mun - Source code for the Mun language and runtime.
Beef - Beef Programming Language
cligen - Nim library to infer/generate command-line-interfaces / option / argument parsing; Docs at