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lobster
- The Lobster Programming Language
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The Neat Programming Language
I think lobster does this.
"Compile time reference counting / lifetime analysis / borrow checker."[1]
"Reference Counting with cycle detection at exit, 95% of reference count ops removed at compile time thanks to lifetime analysis."[1]
[1] https://strlen.com/lobster/
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Why does Rust need humans to tell it how long a variable’s lifetime is?
There is another language, Lobster, that uses lifetime analysis like Rust, but IIUC infers lifetimes completely automatically. It looks like the idea is still experimental - I'm interested to see how it goes.
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What are some must have built-in modules in your opinion/experience?
I think the ability to open a window and do graphical stuff is actually pretty underrated in core language functionality. There's a few game-oriented programming languages like Lobster that put windowing and graphics in the core language functionality, and I think it's pretty neat. The biggest downside is that it's a lot to bite off, because you'll probably want to have standardized API functionality for a whole host of things like font rendering, image loading, etc.
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Minetest: An open source voxel game engine
The actual game itself, yes. Based on this open source project though which provides the language its written in and core engine tech: https://github.com/aardappel/lobster
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Plane - FOSS and self-hosted JIRA replacement. This new project has been useful for many folks, sharing it here too.
I'm keeping an eye on Lobster though. It fixes most of Python's problems. It's way faster, has proper static typing, the import system is sane, etc.
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Using a borrow checker to track mutable refs in a GCed FP language?
Lobster (https://strlen.com/lobster/) appears to at least do lifetime analysis to reduce refcounting. I'm not sure about automatic interior mutability. I feel like there's a keyword here that can help find other compilers with similar features.
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What would make you try a new language?
Also, can I introduce you to https://strlen.com/lobster/, a garbage collected language made for game development by (and primarily for) the one and only Wouter "aardappel" van Oortmerssen?
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In a custom typed imperative programming language, what should the compiler do next, after resolving variable references?
I would like to make it work to some degree like Rust with a borrow checker, and have optional static typing (with type inference wherever it can). Other sources of inspiration, lobster lang, and dart. It is going to (eventually...) compile to several places like dart (browser, iOS, android, linux, etc.). After I've created the AST, I've gone straight to code generation, because that's the easy part IME. But now have to insert the "middle" and do typechecking/borrowchecking/inference/other checking. This is for an imperative-style language.
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Features you've removed from your lang? Why did you put them in, why did you take them out?
Over the ~12 years of Lobster (https://strlen.com/lobster/) 's existence, features that were removed (in this order): * Lexical scoping. * Icon style backtracking. * Small-talk like syntax. * Dynamic Typing. * Multimethods. * Frame based state (like FRP). * Co-routines.
cakelisp
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LISP for UNIX-like systems
You might be interested in CakeLisp.
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Best Lisp/scheme for OSDev?
Cakelisp
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Interesting or distinctive lisps?
"Cakelisp is a metaprogrammable, hot-reloadable, non-garbage-collected language ideal for high performance, iteratively-developed programs (especially games). It is a transpiler which generates C/C++ from an S-expression syntax. Cakelisp takes some inspiration from Lisp, but is not compatible and does not aspire to become 'a Lisp'."
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How about https://github.com/rust-lang/rust/labels/I-unsound? I think everyone saying Rust is "high quality" or whatever is delusional until there are zero bugs on their GitHub. I also don't want to know about your 3 year old's ugly drawings.
This is a bug. Literally unusable.
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Suggestions for a functional language for videogames
Also look into Gamelisp's state machines which are an awesome way of modeling stateful in-game objects. Cakelisp is another cool language made specifically for gamedev.
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Hitting a wall: the importance of learning without a game engine
I wrote a language primarily to make that sort of feature easy to create, via compile time code generation and execution. See Cakelisp.
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Is there any c lisp dialect with features of nim or ziglang
cakelisp has no GC and is meant for games programming.
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Cakelisp A Programming Language For Games
I've added a roadmap with items from my to-do list. I'm happy to receive ideas for features not on that list as well :).
What are some alternatives?
treesheets - TreeSheets : Free Form Data Organizer (see strlen.com/treesheets)
phel-lang - Phel is a functional programming language that transpiles to PHP. A Lisp dialect inspired by Clojure and Janet.
language-ext - C# functional language extensions - a base class library for functional programming
liz - Lisp-flavored general-purpose programming language (based on Zig)
mun - Source code for the Mun language and runtime.
ulisp-arm - A version of the Lisp programming language for ARM-based boards.
swift - The Swift Programming Language
magnum - Lightweight and modular C++11 graphics middleware for games and data visualization
cligen - Nim library to infer/generate command-line-interfaces / option / argument parsing; Docs at
cl-comfy-6502 - Baker's COMFY compiler for the 6502 ported to Common Lisp
zim-desktop-wiki - Main repository of the zim desktop wiki project
urn - Yet another Lisp variant which compiles to Lua