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medley
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What do people mean when they talk abou a pure lisp machine down to the silicon?
Medley, open source emulator for Xerox Interlisp-D machines: https://github.com/Interlisp/medley
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Ask HN: What software stack to select for this boot to code computer?
Your concept looks nice, it reminds me a bit of the Lisperati: https://www.hackster.io/news/the-lisperati1000-is-a-cyberdec...
So, did you consider Lisp or maybe Smalltalk? Plan 9 or Inferno might also be options.
Plan 9 comes in different variants, the "classic" one (with a Raspberry Pi port by Richard Miller) or 9front, an Inferno porting tutorial can be found at https://github.com/yshurik/inferno-rpi
Lisp and Smalltalk can run with or without Linux underneath, e.g. on the Raspberry Pi.
Bare-metal Lisp is available with interim: http://interim-os.com
Finally, bare-metal Smalltalk is available in my crosstalk system: https://github.com/michaelengel/crosstalk
Of course, Lisp and Smalltalk can also run hosted under Linux, e.g. using Squeak (https://squeak.org), Pharo (https://pharo.org) or InterLisp (https://github.com/Interlisp/medley).
Or - a crazy idea - build an emacs-only machine. That would be fun! :)
- Interlisp Online
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MakerLisp Machine - any experiences?
Also available online at https://interlisp.org/. Or follow the instructions at: https://github.com/interlisp/medley/releases
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it was all CL all along
the language analysis of https://github.com/Interlisp/medley
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Interlisp.Org Project News 3/15/2022
Medley Documentation. We've been updating the online documentation at least for getting started -- instructions on Running in various contexts and Building and Using.
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Interesting or distinctive lisps?
Interlisp for some ideas on supporting rapid prototyping and a historical perspective.
- How practical could CLOS paired with a Smalltalk-like IDE be?
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Version Control for Structure Editing
Of historical interest was Interlisp-D as a system that did structure editing and version management. it was at the beginning of time so getting it to work again as a practical development environment is a lot of work.
https://github.com/Interlisp/medley/issues/533
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Where to find "INTERLISP: The Language and Its Usage" by S. Kaisler?
If you have more questions check out Discussions · Interlisp/medley (github.com)
Fennel
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Did we lose our way in making efficient software? – ~30 MB doc file vs. browser
It's interesting: minimal software is out there, but folks don't tend to choose it. I spend a fair amount of time thinking about how to be conservative in my dependencies, and this encourages a lightweight stack that tends to perform pretty well. These days, I'm favoring tools like Lua, SQLite, Fennel[0], Althttpd[1], Fossil[2], and the Mako Server[3] and find that great, lightweight, stable, efficient software is to be had, for free, but you have to go a bit off the beaten path. This isn't stuff you hear about on Stack Overflow.
In terms of frontend, which the post focuses on (Google Docs and a 30MB doc), I guess I'm conflicted. While I tend to favor native apps + web pages, I'm also a daily Tiddlywiki user, and I really think web apps have their place (heck, one idea I'm working on is a lightweight local server that lets you run web apps like Tiddlywiki). But without a doubt, Tiddlywiki is more resource intensive than Emacs (my go-to for notetaking when I'm not on TW). My tab for a 6MB Tiddlywiki file uses 155MB of RAM, and my (heavily customized, dozens of open buffers) Emacs session uses 88MB. So I do think the author has a good point.
[0]: https://fennel-lang.org/
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Pluto, a Modern Lua Dialect
Eh it's not just luajit and luajit didn't create that problem either. It's a symptom of lua actually succeeding at its design goal of being easily embedded as an extension language. A significant number of incompatible runtimes are more popular than the most recent puc lua, including I believe the older official lua 5.2 released in 2011.
I've done a fair bit of professional lua development and I don't think I've ever written standalone up-to-date puc lua except maybe for some tooling & scripts. It's such a small language and used in such a way that the runtime, distribution method, and available APIs have much more impact on your use (and compatibility) than the version.
Virtually everyone shipping a lua environment is also shipping changes to it that make it a unique target, if only extensions to the standard library. This is why I think syntax layer-only approach like fennel's is the correct choice for improving on lua. It mirrors lua's runtime semantics exactly, and allows you to access the implementation peculiars on their own terms and so can just be run on time of any lua system.
https://fennel-lang.org
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LÖVE: a framework to make 2D games in Lua
Just learned about https://fennel-lang.org/ , could have probably used that as well to avoid Lua.
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The Bipolar Lisp Programmer
> I’m positive that there is a Lispy language out there (actually in existence, or the aether) that is appropriate for embedded work, but the constraints of the target make it difficult to envision.
Perhaps Fennel* fits the bill?
* https://fennel-lang.org/
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The Future of the Vim Project
I've also seen neovim plugins written in fennel [0], so if you want something lispy, that's possible now.
[0]: a Lisp that compiles to Lua, https://github.com/bakpakin/Fennel
- Qual a linguagem que vocês mais gostam de programar?
- Can I use elixir as the scripting language of my game engine?
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TimL: Clojure-like Lisp dialect that runs on and compiles down to Vimscript
Something similar: Fennel (https://fennel-lang.org/) is a lisp that compiles into Lua, which nvim can use as plugins, so you can write nvim plugins in a lisp. Aniseed (https://github.com/Olical/aniseed) makes this really easy.
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Announcing automation-service: write and schedule home automation scripts in Lua
If you want a more FP language on the Lua runtime, you might be interested in Fennel. I wrote a post about adding Fennel compiler to a hslua interpreter a while back, which might be useful for you.
- 916 Days of Emacs
What are some alternatives?
maiko - Medley Interlisp virtual machine
janet - A dynamic language and bytecode vm
Co-dfns - High-performance, Reliable, and Parallel APL
urn - Yet another Lisp variant which compiles to Lua
cloc - cloc counts blank lines, comment lines, and physical lines of source code in many programming languages.
nvim-lspconfig - Quickstart configs for Nvim LSP
BQN - An APL-like programming language. Self-hosted!
Lua-RTOS-ESP32 - Lua RTOS for ESP32
lua-languages - Languages that compile to Lua
sbcl - Mirror of Steel Bank Common Lisp (SBCL)'s official repository
webassembly-lua - Write and compile WebAssembly code with Lua