GitUp VS magit

FWIW, the per line staging functionality in GitUp (https://gitup.co/) is quite easy and straightforward. Very lightweight program that you can open via cli (`gitup` when in a git directory)

Not quite true, though while I was there, many fellow employees misunderstood the rules to mean that you couldn't use GPL software on your machine. At least as of a few years ago, the official ruling was that any open-source software _required_ for you to do your job had to be approved by an internal council of sorts, and GPL and AGPL software was right out. You could, however, use any open-source software you wanted (including GPL and AGPL) so long as it was (1) for personal use, (2) not absolutely mandatory for you to do your job (e.g. some niche software or library propping up your employment), and (3) there was some other alternative tool that you could use if necessary.

So, for instance, a GPL-licensed git client like GitUp[1] was fine to use, and didn't require clearance. You could totally also install a newer version of Nano if you wanted, too.

But, the rules _were_ somewhat vague and scary-sounding, so many engineers I worked with took the rules to mean "absolutely no GPL software under any circumstances".

What email is actually talking about is the option to bundle Nano _with the OS_, which Apple can't do with GPLv3 software. That's why for years, macOS has had an absolutely ancient version of bash (before the license was updated to GPLv3), and switched to zsh in newer versions of the OS.

[1]: https://github.com/git-up/GitUp

Gitup \Mac only]) and the command line at the same time. There are some esoteric commands I can’t remember so it’s nice having a GUI to do it and it’s nice having visual feedback incase of a screwup.

I only use it to keep track of certain projects. Gitup (Mac only) is another GUI client I use for visualizing progress and undoing mistakes.

A git client: Fork (paid), GitFox (paid), or Tower (subscription) for git version control. Which one you use is personal preference / price sensitivity. It's Ford vs Chevy. GitUp is free but a little weirder UI, though very powerful.

I typically use the CLI, but GitUp is the best git visualization tool I've ever found (although it's mac-only).

I Ctrl+F'd for GitUp based on the title, it deserves mention here.

It's all-in on Mac, unfortunately.

https://github.com/git-up/GitUp

> GitUp is built as a thin layer on top of a [Mac-only] reusable generic Git toolkit called "GitUpKit"

I thought Windows Sandbox would be more useful but over time I just haven't fired it up... I kind of forgot about it. I do use Hyper-V.

Every Windows user should run WizTree on their personal machines at least once a year to get a lightning fast report on disk space usage. Cleanup should start wih the largest items or you're just wasting your time! https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=33893815#33894842

Bitvise SSH Server is also now free for personal use. I've been using it for over a decade since it offered simple multifactor authentication before OpenSSH (IIRC) and can block most bots by client identifier (libssh) -- security through obscurity works spectacularly here because OpenSSH does not yet support this. Their free-as-in-beer SSH client is a great GUI for port forwarding, SFTP, etc. but I dislike the built-in terminal's clipboard handling.

A Mac-only recommendation: https://gitup.co a GPL3 Git client with a unique UI and undo. https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=27579701&p=2#27580659

If you use Pandora, check out the pianobar cli. For Twitch, there is Chatty (+streamlink cli & VLC).

I set up signald with a Google Voice number but haven't continued down the path of automating Signal.

I tried Tailscale (2021?) but it seemed a bit early, couldn't log out yet. So I went with ZerotTier. https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=30284754

The tool used to visualize Git Tree: GitUp (looking for something better)

Then the slowness that you're seeing is probably Windows-specific, and that's why everyone else is telling you that Magit is actually fast.

WSL might make things faster.[1] IIUC, the problem is that starting new processes is much slower on Windows than on Linux/Unix and Magit relies heavily on that. This seems to have plagued Git tooling more generally but maybe this got fixed since then.[2]

[1] https://emacs.stackexchange.com/a/58444

[2] https://github.com/magit/magit/issues/2395#issuecomment-1710...

You'll want to invest the time in learning Magit, which will change your life once you get the hang of it (and I was a heavy user of Fugitive in Vim previously!), and it's unlikely you'll find a better integration with GDB anywhere else on the planet than with Emacs, though I can't say that empirically. You just need to take the plunge and start learning it, then cut over and take the hit in productivity one day when you're feeling adventurous. You'll ultimately become far more powerful than you've ever been. Especially if you delve into elisp over time. I use Spacemacs, which is bloated and has bugs, but it has so many features that I haven't undertaken the massive endeavor to replace it from scratch yet.

> Even in this article just a few sentences after stating we should start from first principles he then jumps into the assumption of the "desktop".

Agree. Although I can see how the idea of "first principles" can be a very difficult starting point. A blank sheet of paper is a scary monster.

There's a huge breadth and depth of non-"desktop" GUIs out there, some (like smartphones) are even wildly successful. It's good to explore them for inspiration. Some of my favourites:

- Arcan (https://arcan-fe.com/about/) - I won't attempt to summarize, just dive in!

- SailfishOS (https://sailfishos.org/) - mobile UI focused on interaction through gestures / swipes; I've used it as my daily driver for a couple years.

- Speaking of mobiles, classic Nokia UIs allowed you to navigate to a specific item in the menu by pressing the corresponding digit on the dial pad. Once you learned where a particular item is, accessing e.g. your SMS inbox was extremely quick.

- Apple Watch / WatchOS (https://www.apple.com/watchos/) - I've always loved the idea of a device where one of the primary interaction methods was a wheel/dial of some sort. The watch even gives you context-sensitive tactile feedback.

- ZUIs in general (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zooming_user_interface) and the work of Jef Raskin in particular: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Archy_(software) - this is the guy who helped design the Macintosh, but his other work took a radically different route.

- Magit (https://magit.vc/). Many common git operations are reduced to a couple of keystrokes; the obscure features are more discoverable, and the cumbersome procedures (such as rebasing, or staging individual hunks) become simple and intuitive. Also check out transient (https://github.com/magit/transient), which is the "UI toolkit" that powers Magit.

This can be done most comfortably with org-mode in emacs. It offers a lot of features, and they all operate on plain text. There are also nice integrations for git and languagetool, but I guess those are less exclusive.

How does this differ from https://magit.vc/ ?

I would rather see innovative tools that lessen our dependency on 50+ year old tech. This is still a glorified teletype. It uses AI to autosuggest git commands? Contrast with Magit[1], which (while it has a tiny bit of a learning curve, but also nowhere near 23M in funding) actually makes interacting with git a pleasure.

[1]: https://magit.vc

Also was using Emacs (org-mode)[https://orgmode.org] for years with (Magit)[https://magit.vc] package for git. I feel org-mod is a precursor to Roam Research, Obsidian, et al. Hit the spot for years but I wanted editing on mobile so that’s why I’m here. :)