Eve
ponyc
Eve | ponyc | |
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14 | 61 | |
7,136 | 5,602 | |
0.0% | 0.2% | |
0.0 | 9.2 | |
about 6 years ago | 6 days ago | |
TypeScript | C | |
Apache License 2.0 | BSD 2-clause "Simplified" License |
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Eve
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Reactive Programming Without Functions
There's also https://github.com/mech-lang/mech which is a sort of descendant of Eve https://witheve.com/ . That too seems to be getting close to hiatus. It's a bit of a shame since it seems like quite a nice paradigm for some stuff like GUIs, interactive stuff, and discrete event simulation, but I suppose the paradigm is both a bit obscure and different enough from everything else that it becomes a "boil the ocean" situation where one or a few people try and hack away but aren't really able to get much traction and eventually tired themselves out.
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Why software projects take longer than you think: a statistical model (2019)
Interesting perspective. It reminds me of Eve [1], which was all the rage over here a few years ago.
[1] https://witheve.com/
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Hyper-Literate Programming?
You can read more about it here: http://witheve.com
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Mech: A data driven reactive language for games and robots
From what I can tell, this language builds on the learnings of Eve[1] without investor money. Their active repository seems to be on GitLab[2] despite the links on the landing and in the README. It doesn't seem to have a lot of contributors or even people observing it, so I thought the HN crowd might want to look into this.
[1] https://github.com/witheve/Eve
[2] https://gitlab.com/mech-lang/mech
- Eve: Programming Designed for Humans
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Ask HN: Has anyone fully attempted Bret Victor's vision?
I helped with the Eve language, which was an attempt down this path (https://witheve.com)
After that project ended I started working on my own attempt (https://GitHub.com/mech-lang/mech).
Someone else posted a link to futureofcoding.org, which is a community that works on these types of projects. You can find a lot more there.
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"data-driven" runtime design
Also sounds like http://witheve.com
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Not sharing data at all?
Some langs have been made more or less like this (ex: http://witheve.com).
- Eve: Programming Designed for Humans (2016)
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Why start a new database conference?
Do you mean this Eve? I'm trying to figure out what you meant :)
http://witheve.com/
ponyc
- Old Version
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The problem with general purpose programming languages
For example, the actor's model is not used by a lot of languages, Pony (https://www.ponylang.io/) and Elixir are the only ones that I know, but they address the concurrency problem quite well, while it's a pain to deal with in other languages at large scale.
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Found a language in development called Vale which claims to be the safest AOT compiled language in the World (Claims to beSafer than Rust)
And that last point is critical. If the language flatly can't represent some concepts it uses, they have to be implemented somewhere else. I had a similar discussion with a proponent for Pony once- the language itself is 100% safe, and fully dependent on C for its runtime and data structures. One of Rust's core strengths is being able to express unsafe concepts, meaning the unsafe code can expose a safe interface that accurately describes its requirements rather than an opaque C ABI. Vale doesn't seem to do that.
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The Rust I wanted had no future
"Exterior iteration. Iteration used to be by stack / non-escaping coroutines, which we also called "interior" iteration, as opposed to "exterior" iteration by pointer-like things that live in variables you advance. Such coroutines are now finally supported by LLVM (they weren't at the time) and are actually a fairly old and reliable mechanism for a linking-friendly, not-having-to-inline-tons-of-library-code abstraction for iteration. They're in, like, BLISS and Modula-2 and such. Really normal thing to have, early Rust had them, and they got ripped out for a bunch of reasons that, again, mostly just form "an argument I lost" rather than anything I disagree with today. I wish Rust still had them. Maybe someday it will!"
I remember that one. The change was shortly after I started fooling with Rust and was major. Major as in it broke all the code that I'd written to that point.
"Async/await. I wanted a standard green-thread runtime with growable stacks -- essentially just "coroutines that escape, when you need them too"."
I remember that one, too; it was one of the things that drew me to the language---I was imagining something more like Pony (https://www.ponylang.io/).
"The Rust I Wanted probably had no future, or at least not one anywhere near as good as The Rust We Got."
Almost certainly true. But The Rust We Got is A Better C++, which was never appealing to me because I never liked C++ anyway.
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How long until Rust becomes mandatory, and use of any other language opens the developer up to Reckless Endangerment charges
Pony or bust.
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Universal parameter passing semantics
If you have a value in mutable storage, and want to treat it as an immutable parameter without copying it first, you will need to provide some way to guarantee that it won't be mutated while being treated as immutable! There doesn't seem to be a definitive best way to do that (although the likes of Pony make a try at it).
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Virtual Threads Arrive in JDK 21, Ushering a New Era of Concurrency
The love child of Erlang and Rust exists already: Pony.
https://www.ponylang.io
It really is the best of both languages... unfortunately, the main supporter of Pony seems to have stopped using it in favour of Rust though :D.
But if that's really what you want, Pony is your language. It definitely deserves more love.
- Programming language rule
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Why Turborepo is migrating from Go to Rust – Vercel
You can actually try to have a magic language which "does not ignore decades of PL research" but you are likely to get either something broken or a project that is likely not going to release in our lifetime.
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Show HN: Ractor – a Rust-based actor framework with clusters and supervisors
Never a bad time to plug Pony lang[1] - a safety-oriented actor-model language. In addition to the numerous safety guarantees, you also get a beautiful syntax and automatic memory management. Really a great language that often gets overshadowed by Rust's hype-turfing.
[1]: https://www.ponylang.io/
What are some alternatives?
yt-eve - A CLI utility tool
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om - ClojureScript interface to Facebook's React [Moved to: https://github.com/omcljs/om]
Halide - a language for fast, portable data-parallel computation
om - ClojureScript interface to Facebook's React
prolog-to-minizinc - A Prolog-to-MiniZinc translator
gtoolkit - Glamorous Toolkit is the Moldable Development environment. It empowers you to make systems explainable through experiences tailored for each problem.
Phoenix - wxPython's Project Phoenix. A new implementation of wxPython, better, stronger, faster than he was before.
liquibase - Main Liquibase Source
tab-rs - The intuitive, config-driven terminal multiplexer designed for software & systems engineers
additive-guis - guis constructed from tuples/triples
Nim - Nim is a statically typed compiled systems programming language. It combines successful concepts from mature languages like Python, Ada and Modula. Its design focuses on efficiency, expressiveness, and elegance (in that order of priority).