Eve
dark
Eve | dark | |
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14 | 43 | |
7,136 | 1,607 | |
0.0% | 1.1% | |
0.0 | 9.9 | |
about 6 years ago | about 21 hours ago | |
TypeScript | F# | |
Apache License 2.0 | GNU General Public License v3.0 or later |
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Eve
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Reactive Programming Without Functions
There's also https://github.com/mech-lang/mech which is a sort of descendant of Eve https://witheve.com/ . That too seems to be getting close to hiatus. It's a bit of a shame since it seems like quite a nice paradigm for some stuff like GUIs, interactive stuff, and discrete event simulation, but I suppose the paradigm is both a bit obscure and different enough from everything else that it becomes a "boil the ocean" situation where one or a few people try and hack away but aren't really able to get much traction and eventually tired themselves out.
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Why software projects take longer than you think: a statistical model (2019)
Interesting perspective. It reminds me of Eve [1], which was all the rage over here a few years ago.
[1] https://witheve.com/
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Hyper-Literate Programming?
You can read more about it here: http://witheve.com
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Mech: A data driven reactive language for games and robots
From what I can tell, this language builds on the learnings of Eve[1] without investor money. Their active repository seems to be on GitLab[2] despite the links on the landing and in the README. It doesn't seem to have a lot of contributors or even people observing it, so I thought the HN crowd might want to look into this.
[1] https://github.com/witheve/Eve
[2] https://gitlab.com/mech-lang/mech
- Eve: Programming Designed for Humans
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Ask HN: Has anyone fully attempted Bret Victor's vision?
I helped with the Eve language, which was an attempt down this path (https://witheve.com)
After that project ended I started working on my own attempt (https://GitHub.com/mech-lang/mech).
Someone else posted a link to futureofcoding.org, which is a community that works on these types of projects. You can find a lot more there.
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"data-driven" runtime design
Also sounds like http://witheve.com
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Not sharing data at all?
Some langs have been made more or less like this (ex: http://witheve.com).
- Eve: Programming Designed for Humans (2016)
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Why start a new database conference?
Do you mean this Eve? I'm trying to figure out what you meant :)
http://witheve.com/
dark
- Darklang
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WASM_of_OCaml
Yes. Darklang was originally in OCaml using js_of_ocaml, and we ported it to F# using Blazor (https://github.com/darklang/dark/tree/main/backend/src/Wasm). It works.
We found that in dotnet 6, the code was much slower, with long startup times and a much bigger download, than in js_of_ocaml. It also had a lot of issues in running in a Webworker, which wasn't the case for js_of_ocaml.
In dotnet 7, the webworker issues are better and AOT is easier, so startup is faster. Download sizes are still bad, and it's still slower than js_of_ocaml.
However, dotnet allows almost any code to run in WASM, which js_of_ocaml had large limitations. This meant a decent chunk of functionality had to be worked around to make separate js vs native targets, which also was a massive pain and took a long time. Dune's virtual targets wasn't ready at the time - I think we were one of the test cases for it.
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It's so unfortunate they decided to go with the Clojure/Haskell type syntax, as opposed to something friendlier like Elixir. A lot of people will not even try this language as a result. [Unison]
Why should I use this instead of https://darklang.com/
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Cloud, Why So Difficult?
First it was probably Dark. They made a lot of noise some years ago, but then I never heard of them again (looking at their current website, looks like they moved on to AI now, obviously).
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New open-source programming language for DevOps engineers by the creator of the CDK
Reminds me of Darklang. Personally, I don't think vendoring cloud services into a language is going to be beneficial. I'm curious how the language deals with vendor updates. Do I have to upgrade the language then? If so, I see a lot conflicts coming from this. Then it comes down to Javascript or HCL, the HCL bit makes me think that the below statement is not as truthy as it is on the surface:
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Darklang Release 9
We still don't have all that many users (~100 active), so I'm not sure you'll find an answer here. But we collect that sort of feedback publicly, which might answer your question: https://github.com/darklang/dark/discussions/categories/feed...
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Making Something Waspy: A Review Of Wasp
I wish I could remember what took me to YCombinator's website on the 10th of October, 2022. That was when I first heard about Wasp and another language called DarkLang. After I learned about Wasp, I was intrigued and curious to know how it works, which led me to join the discord server the next day.
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Using Rust at a Startup: A Cautionary Tale
Some languages that try to integrate an HTTP server and a database:
Ur/Web: http://impredicative.com/ur/
Dark (Darklang): https://darklang.com/
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The Current State of Infrastructure From Code
There are others in this space I did not assess like Encore, Shuttle, Modal, and Dark. These were not assessed for the sake of time. If you're interested in IfC, I encourage you to take a look at these others.
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Finally, we have support for negative numbers!
Oh, finally! I was waiting to build my serverless CRUD webapp in Dark (OCaml + JavaScript and Fsharp?) until they had support for returning negative numbers on a GET request!
What are some alternatives?
yt-eve - A CLI utility tool
nvim-ts-rainbow - Rainbow parentheses for neovim using tree-sitter. Use https://sr.ht/~p00f/nvim-ts-rainbow instead
om - ClojureScript interface to Facebook's React [Moved to: https://github.com/omcljs/om]
Bracket-Pair-Colorizer-2 - Bracket Colorizer Extension for VSCode
om - ClojureScript interface to Facebook's React
unison - A friendly programming language from the future
gtoolkit - Glamorous Toolkit is the Moldable Development environment. It empowers you to make systems explainable through experiences tailored for each problem.
nanos - A kernel designed to run one and only one application in a virtualized environment
liquibase - Main Liquibase Source
additive-guis - guis constructed from tuples/triples
terraform-cdk - Define infrastructure resources using programming constructs and provision them using HashiCorp Terraform